zookeeperz Posted November 11, 2017 Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) This guy's even selling it with a C.O.A (NO TIMEWASTERS) or does he mean wise people telling him he's a crook £1000 guess which one is his Struck to proof standard Really? Strange the C..O.A doesn't have RM on it . Looks like a cutting from a news article? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Q-V-SILVER-GOTHIC-CROWN-1847-No-Time-Wasters-Please/263316076040 Edited November 11, 2017 by zookeeperz Quote
declan03 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) Anniversary indeed!! Like you said Zookeeper this could easily fool a lot of collectors....thanks for the heads up ?. Edited November 12, 2017 by declan03 spelling error Quote
declan03 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 8 hours ago, zookeeperz said: This guy's even selling it with a C.O.A (NO TIMEWASTERS) or does he mean wise people telling him he's a crook £1000 guess which one is his Struck to proof standard Really? Strange the C..O.A doesn't have RM on it . Looks like a cutting from a news article? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Q-V-SILVER-GOTHIC-CROWN-1847-No-Time-Wasters-Please/263316076040 Left? Quote
declan03 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 I decided to email the seller of these fake Danewood halfcrowns to cancel the order, instead of risking the £100 purchase price on a risky return, to leave the negative feedback. He claims to have no idea what i am talking about, even although the 10+ halfcrowns he sold were all replicas from the same place. How on earth can he have 1500+ sales with no negative feedback whatsoever? I was going to report him to ebay via telephone. But is it really worth all the time and hassle trying to explain to someone who hasn't a clue about coins, that he has ripped off loads of buyers? The answer is NO because ebay could not care less, which has been said a thousand times on here. They do not want any bad publicity by getting Fraud squads involved with, which to them is a trivial matter, prosecuting, finding people guilty, then getting it all plastered over the media and showing Ebay for what it is. They don't even want you leaving negative feedback as its bad for business. I left negative feedback for a seller who sold me a dud, after a lenghthy case against him, only for it to be rescinded a day later. So really why bother. Ebay the judge and jury!! At the end of the day, your really using Ebay at your own peril. Some you win and some you lose. ? 2 Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, declan03 said: I decided to email the seller of these fake Danewood halfcrowns to cancel the order, instead of risking the £100 purchase price on a risky return, to leave the negative feedback. He claims to have no idea what i am talking about, even although the 10+ halfcrowns he sold were all replicas from the same place. How on earth can he have 1500+ sales with no negative feedback whatsoever? I was going to report him to ebay via telephone. But is it really worth all the time and hassle trying to explain to someone who hasn't a clue about coins, that he has ripped off loads of buyers? The answer is NO because ebay could not care less, which has been said a thousand times on here. They do not want any bad publicity by getting Fraud squads involved with, which to them is a trivial matter, prosecuting, finding people guilty, then getting it all plastered over the media and showing Ebay for what it is. They don't even want you leaving negative feedback as its bad for business. I left negative feedback for a seller who sold me a dud, after a lenghthy case against him, only for it to be rescinded a day later. So really why bother. Ebay the judge and jury!! At the end of the day, your really using Ebay at your own peril. Some you win and some you lose. ? As we have seen in the news over recent months with all the can't touch me actors and film producers we live in a time of name and shame. Ebay are breaking the law they are breaking trade practice definitions they are certainly not holding to any ethics mandates. Known fraudsters are allowed to continue to ply their trade unhindered and worse than that ebay covers their scams with 100% feedback protection. Should ebay be brought before an ethics committee? too bloody right they should.! Should ebay be brought before the trades and commerce ombudsman too bloody right they should.! . The thing about staying silent the problem only compounds itself. Ebay have a high profile on British TV yet they have the practices of a bootsale outfit. They have had a good run and if they are not willing to protect the people that for the most part pay their wages then they must go. It will fire a shot across the bows of any similar organisations who think they can do the same. If Ebay can be taken down then anyone can. I feel that this action will restore the faith in online purchasing as a whole and kick this industries butt into line. But it needs a heavy player(s) to carry it off. Where do you start? 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, declan03 said: I decided to email the seller of these fake Danewood halfcrowns to cancel the order, instead of risking the £100 purchase price on a risky return, to leave the negative feedback. He claims to have no idea what i am talking about, even although the 10+ halfcrowns he sold were all replicas from the same place. How on earth can he have 1500+ sales with no negative feedback whatsoever? I was going to report him to ebay via telephone. But is it really worth all the time and hassle trying to explain to someone who hasn't a clue about coins, that he has ripped off loads of buyers? The answer is NO because ebay could not care less, which has been said a thousand times on here. They do not want any bad publicity by getting Fraud squads involved with, which to them is a trivial matter, prosecuting, finding people guilty, then getting it all plastered over the media and showing Ebay for what it is. They don't even want you leaving negative feedback as its bad for business. I left negative feedback for a seller who sold me a dud, after a lenghthy case against him, only for it to be rescinded a day later. So really why bother. Ebay the judge and jury!! At the end of the day, your really using Ebay at your own peril. Some you win and some you lose. ? If you phone ebay to tell them why you are not paying rather than paying and returning them they will listen.You have done a fantastic job putting them on here and not worth the hastle of doing anymore. HAT OFF and move on. 1 Quote
Ukstu Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELIZABETH-1-COIN-RELEASED-IN-1562-NOT-HAMMERED/142577533393 Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Ukstu said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ELIZABETH-1-COIN-RELEASED-IN-1562-NOT-HAMMERED/142577533393 That was produced last week in Dagenham Essex 1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QV-Queen-Victoria-1883-Silver-Half-Crown-High-Grade-Lovely-Coin/272907766477 again this doesn't sit right with me anyone? If its real it's worth a fortune. Quote
hibernianscribe Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: That was produced last week in Dagenham Essex Reported and seller messaged. 1 Quote
declan03 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: That was produced last week in Dagenham Essex Reported the blighter...we can but try!! Edited November 12, 2017 by declan03 spelling error 1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, hibernianscribe said: Reported and seller messaged. was it a before the watershed message ? 1 Quote
declan03 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Has the 1883 halfcrown possibly been cleaned? Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, declan03 said: Has the 1883 halfcrown possibly been cleaned? It just looks really chunky rather than defined the jewels should be diamond shaped not dots unless its the result of silver dipping? Quote
Ukstu Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, hibernianscribe said: Reported and seller messaged. Thank you. Looks to have worked. Good Job! ? Quote
declan03 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 I see he has relisted this coin at auction now. Is it a dud and has anyone reported it? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Q-V-SILVER-GOTHIC-CROWN-1847-No-Time-Wasters-Please/263318002161?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 Quote
Rob Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, declan03 said: I see he has relisted this coin at auction now. Is it a dud and has anyone reported it? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-Q-V-SILVER-GOTHIC-CROWN-1847-No-Time-Wasters-Please/263318002161?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 If he has been told by a dealer at Charing Cross that it is a £1200 coin all day long, then they would offer him £800 for it without question - somewhat better than the £430 net he will receive from eBay after costs. Wonder why he doesn't sell it to them? 1 Quote
declan03 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Haha ?????. I give up Rob!!! I,m away to read your words of wisdom in my newly aquired Bronze coinage of Great Britain. ? 1 Quote
declan03 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 I would love to see his certificate of authenticity from Westminster!! Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) I haven't had the opportunity to get my hands on a Gothic, but this (practice of restrike/repro/copy/ripoff etc.) is seriously going to make the task of getting a genuine one much harder, so if you have one I guess the rule of thumb is now either slab it or ensure you have a decent set of dcos to go with it. Edited November 13, 2017 by Unwilling Numismatist Quote
jelida Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, declan03 said: I would love to see his certificate of authenticity from Westminster!! He does show it in his last pic, it looks as dubious as everything else in this ad, and of course is completely unattributable to the ‘coin’ in question. Jerry 1 Quote
declan03 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 I gave up after picture seven Jerry!! ? Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Surely this is bonkers Who are CCCS? I thought CGS were strict on grading but this outfit tops the lot lol F-12 I think not https://www.ebay.com/itm/UK-Great-Britain-1862-Half-Penny-England/321968111252 Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Her nose looks just like the replica/restrikes from aliexpress... or do I need my glasses on again? (and who are CCCS?) Chinese Coin Copying Service ? linky https://www.aliexpress.com/item/UK-1862-1-Penny-coin-copy-FREE-SHIPPING-31mm/32819478015.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.uKl06X&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10130_10344_10345_10547_10342_10546_10343_10340_10341_10548_10541_10190_10307_10303_10060_10155_10154_10056_10055_10539_10537_10536_10059_10534_10533_100031_10103_10102_5680020_10142_10107_10324_10325_10084_10562_10083_10179_10312_10313_10184_10314_10073_10557-10102,searchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=52222ee2-7701-4594-a046-0dd325aa2799&algo_expid=731481c9-a092-47fb-b1a9-b1f44813e37f-0&algo_pvid=731481c9-a092-47fb-b1a9-b1f44813e37f Edited November 13, 2017 by Unwilling Numismatist Added a link 1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Unwilling Numismatist said: Her nose looks just like the replica/restrikes from aliexpress... or do I need my glasses on again? (and who are CCCS?) Chinese Coin Copying Service ? Corrupt coin counterfeiting society? 2 Quote
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