A Dodgey 1927 Florin.

[ozjohn]

Noticed on Ebay

[Rob]

Oh dear.

[Peckris 2]

There are repros of 1927 florins? Why? 

[Coys55]

2 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

There are repros of 1927 florins? Why? 

Isn't it a case of "that's neither superb nor a proof" rather than a repro?

[Peckris 2]

42 minutes ago, Coys55 said:

Isn't it a case of "that's neither superb nor a proof" rather than a repro?

It's possibly more difficult to tell when the attached picture is of an entire webpage rather than a screenshot of just the coin, but it simply just doesn't look right. It looks wrong in exactly the same way as a Victorian YH repro looks wrong. So my money's on a repro unless we can see the coin isolated from the webpage.

[Paddy]

Yes, I would go with repro too. The over-detailed eyebrows and moustache just don't seem to occur on genuine coins, even proofs. 

[Coys55]

57 minutes ago, Paddy said:

Yes, I would go with repro too. The over-detailed eyebrows and moustache just don't seem to occur on genuine coins, even proofs. 

It does look a bit odd now you mention it. The lines under the eyes and BM don't look quite right either.

Here's the link: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267686864594?_trksid=p4375194.c102726.m162918

Does seem a strange one to copy though.

[Martinminerva]

13 minutes ago, Coys55 said:

Does seem a strange one to copy though.

Not at all... Genuine 1927 florins are proof only, barely 15,000 struck and typically change hands for £120 - £150 and are sought after.  A Chinese poor quality copy (which this is just one of many, many examples peddled on ebay, Alibaba etc) can be got for maybe a fiver, so a disingenuous soul can easily make a huge profit...

 

4 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

There are repros of 1927 florins? Why? 

See above! 

[Peckris 2]

6 hours ago, Martinminerva said:

Not at all... Genuine 1927 florins are proof only, barely 15,000 struck and typically change hands for £120 - £150 and are sought after.  A Chinese poor quality copy (which this is just one of many, many examples peddled on ebay, Alibaba etc) can be got for maybe a fiver, so a disingenuous soul can easily make a huge profit...

 

See above! 

I still think it's odd - there are many low mintage proofs in the 20th Century. Repros are usually of extremely rare coins, or are obvious bad copies of particular types (though not often of 20th Century coins unless extremely rare such as 1933 or 1954 pennies).

[Paddy]

I think the 1927 florin (and also threepence?) are a target as these dates are not available in circulation coinage. For the date-run collectors they are appealing once the usual dates have been acquired.

The 1927 proof Half crown would be far less appealing as the date can be ticked off with a circulation issue, even though the design is totally different.