Sword Posted September 13 Posted September 13 The issue next to the ear looks like a flan lamination flaw: a layer on the surface on the coin has flaked off. 1 Quote
Paddy Posted September 13 Posted September 13 I agree with @Sword on the lamination error. I think the odd feature on the reverse corresponds to Victoria's lips, so possible a partial double strike? 1 Quote
Martinminerva Posted September 13 Posted September 13 (edited) Flan lamination flaw, yes, but double strike no - you mean instead clashed dies, thus imparting part of Viccy's face to the reverse die and then all subsequently struck coins. And the vertical bit by her nose is a corresponding clash from the edge of the shield on the reverse. I suspect the misformed G is also the result of the clash with whatever letter from the reverse legend corresponds with it. All interesting, but nothing really abnormal or a genuine error here as die clashes are very common in the Victorian series and lamination occurs as a result of trapped gas bubbles in the metal mix for the blanks. Edited September 13 by Martinminerva Additions. 1 1 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted September 13 Posted September 13 19 hours ago, Citizen H said: the reverse looks like is over stamped ..... a lot going on with this coin ...... 🤔 I'm not sure where you're getting the overstamped idea from? The reverse looks normal apart from what looks like Vic's mouth chin and neck appearing just to the left of the shield, probably caused the same way 'ghosting' occurs on many 1st issue George V coins, especially pennies halfpennies shillings and sixpences. Quote
Citizen H Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 2 hours ago, Peckris 2 said: I'm not sure where you're getting the overstamped idea from? The reverse looks normal apart from what looks like Vic's mouth chin and neck appearing just to the left of the shield, probably caused the same way 'ghosting' occurs on many 1st issue George V coins, especially pennies halfpennies shillings and sixpences. recently I was shown a coin that was Spanish. it had a ghost out line of Victoria..... the explanation was that was over stamped, one further question,, how did it get the curved pattern next to the shield from? 😕 many thanks one and all, its really interesting to learn more about the coins I have lurking to be found. flaws an all.....! Quote
Citizen H Posted September 13 Author Posted September 13 so now side by side its begins to become clearer 👍 1 Quote
Citizen H Posted September 14 Author Posted September 14 2x groat.....four pence coin....with faults ? 1840 the No, 4 seem to be lager the the rest of the date 1854, the No. 5 has mis shape at the top, the trident has a line across near the hand.... 1 Quote
Citizen H Posted September 30 Author Posted September 30 Silver six pence's, George III, Victoria, George V, various Conditions, and the 2nd George III look like it has been glided... possibly passed off as a Half Sovereign ? Quote
Citizen H Posted October 1 Author Posted October 1 George III, 1819 Crown with a fault just below the bust, I thought it was a gash in the coin, just a mint fault 👍 Quote
Citizen H Posted October 2 Author Posted October 2 (edited) typo. its a 1821 crown coin. Edited October 2 by Citizen H Quote
Citizen H Posted October 3 Author Posted October 3 Victoria Half Crown, 1898, it was very mucky covered in crud, It was left in soapy water...over night... as I forgot it was there, very impressed by it condition its turned out to be, just goes to show that gentle cleaning does pay off..... Quote
blakeyboy Posted October 5 Posted October 5 On 10/3/2025 at 3:33 PM, Citizen H said: Victoria Half Crown, 1898, it was very mucky covered in crud, It was left in soapy water...over night... as I forgot it was there, very impressed by it condition its turned out to be, just goes to show that gentle cleaning does pay off..... Your Mother was right....:-) 1 Quote
Sword Posted October 5 Posted October 5 On 10/3/2025 at 3:33 PM, Citizen H said: Victoria Half Crown, 1898, it was very mucky covered in crud, It was left in soapy water...over night... as I forgot it was there, very impressed by it condition its turned out to be, just goes to show that gentle cleaning does pay off..... If the coin is not high grade and is very dirty, then cleaning it is OK. But you need to be very careful with high grade examples. For high grades, dabbing with a cotton bud soaked in acetone should be fine, but don't rub, as this will cause hairlines. 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted October 5 Posted October 5 I have a problem with using acetone- not in itself, it's a very useful cleaner, but the fact that the metal is left totally exposed to the atmosphere after cleaning. I think a slight protective oil layer should be left, and I do mean 'slight'...I use Electrolube EML for switches with silver contacts on equipment. EML was specified for switch contact protection when the equipment was made, in the late '60's and early 70's. The switches that have had protection still work fine. Switches that were cleaned with types of 'contact cleaner', that have no protective inert oil, are through the plating and down to the brass, and require very expensive replacement. It would be worth experimenting - a small amount is applied, and a dry clean paintbrush is used to remove all but the finest trace- enough to create an invisible barrier. People promote olive oil for some coins, but if you look at the impurities in olive oils, it's difficult to believe it's not corrosive... 1 Quote
Zo Arms Posted October 6 Posted October 6 I soaked one of the rarest, 1953, farthing, die pairings in olive oil, overnight. Virgin, if I remember. Was surprised how much it discoloured it. Don't think I'd ever risk it again. Quote
VickySilver Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Sad to hear. As you will recall olive oil has an acidic pH and so not for lustrous copper coinage as you've found out. 1 Quote
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