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[1949threepence]

6 hours ago, alfnail said:

Was it this one Mike?

 

Either that or something very similar Terry. Why, were you the lucky buyer?

[1949threepence]

2 hours ago, terrysoldpennies said:

Obv.

Nice spot & nice coin. Fantastic reverse and obverse not half bad either !

How much was it Terry, if that's not being impertinent. 

Presumably the seller had no idea what it was?  

 

 

[terrysoldpennies]

AAh yes unattributed as an F175  6 pounds   lucky find

[Rob]

With nearly 6000 George V pennies listed on eBay at the moment, someone has a lot of time on their hands.

 

[terrysoldpennies]

48 minutes ago, Rob said:

With nearly 6000 George V pennies listed on eBay at the moment, someone has a lot of time on their hands.

 

Actually I live a very active life and work hard just like my Dog

[alfnail]

Some breed of 'Cocker' Terry? 

[Peckris 2]

11 hours ago, blakeyboy said:

About time, because Vettel's last album was crap....

He needs to get off that Ferrari label..

[terrysoldpennies]

6 hours ago, alfnail said:

Some breed of 'Cocker' Terry? 

I think he thinks he's a Cocker and as you can see proud of it

[1949threepence]

7 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Either that or something very similar Terry. Why, were you the lucky buyer?

Ian I mean, not Terry. Apologies. 

[alfnail]

No worries Mike. Yes, I did buy it.... very soon after it was listed as a BIN, back in 2014. I thought it may have been this one because don't often see a lustred F78.....but I have recorded it as costing £190. 

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, alfnail said:

No worries Mike. Yes, I did buy it.... very soon after it was listed as a BIN, back in 2014. I thought it may have been this one because don't often see a lustred F78.....but I have recorded it as costing £190. 

I think it may well be the same one, Ian. It would have been about then. My error with regard to the price, but £190 still a bargain for an F78 in that condition. You don't often see them for sale. 

In the end I settled for a GVF example from Dave Craddock. 

 

[1949threepence]

I managed to get this 1856 PT penny in about NEF both sides for a best offer price of £280, which compares favourably to many of the LCA hammer prices.

   

[RLC35]

17 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

I managed to get this 1856 PT penny in about NEF both sides for a best offer price of £280, which compares favourably to many of the LCA hammer prices.

   

 

Nice coin, at a bargain price!

[mick1271]

Got 2 1848/7 pennies for £26 . Was struggling to get one for that price , but managed to get lucky .One has been cleaned ,but they are nice grades even if they do have some issues .

 

 

[mick1271]

The verd was just surface and came of easily (treated with Verdi care ) .Just looks like some carbon spots now.

Edited September 3, 2020 by mick1271

[1949threepence]

6 hours ago, mick1271 said:

Got 2 1848/7 pennies for £26 . Was struggling to get one for that price , but managed to get lucky .One has been cleaned ,but they are nice grades even if they do have some issues .

 

 

Have you got the original e bay link, Mick? Might be able to see if they are Bramah 10b and/or Bramah 10c 8/7 types. Of course, you may already know, in which case, apologies. 

The one with verd looks (otherwise) pretty much UNC.

 

[mick1271]

6 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Have you got the original e bay link, Mick? Might be able to see if they are Bramah 10b and/or Bramah 10c 8/7 types. Of course, you may already know, in which case, apologies. 

The one with verd looks (otherwise) pretty much UNC.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Queen-Victoria-Pennies-1848-High-Grades-/143696323059?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=zGNhOPeEfsB5VMffTHlQjngAylU%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

 

I don't own a copy of Bramah , so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference .The one that had the verd isn't far off Unc , but through a loupe ,I did notice someone had lightly scratched a FB on it (Couldn't see it with the naked eye , well not mine anyway lol).

Edited September 3, 2020 by mick1271

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, mick1271 said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Queen-Victoria-Pennies-1848-High-Grades-/143696323059?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=zGNhOPeEfsB5VMffTHlQjngAylU%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

 

I don't own a copy of Bramah , so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference .The one that had the verd isn't far off Unc , but through a loupe ,I did notice someone had lightly scratched a FB on it (Couldn't see it with the naked eye , well not mine anyway lol).

Bramah describes them as follows:-

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10b ALTERED DATE O. - The die has been altered from 1847. The 7 shows very plainly beneath the 8, its up-stroke dividing the lower loop of 8 into two unequal parts, that on the left being much the smaller.

10c ALTERED DATE O. - The die has been altered from 1847. The 7 does not show so conspicuously as it does on No 10b and its up-stroke divides the lower loop of 8 into two fairly equal portions.

 

From what I can tell, I'd say the coin on the left (the a/UNC one) is probably a Bramah 10c. Not sure what the one on the right is. Unfortunately the coins are slightly too far away for the magnification to be as effective as it might be.

I can say with absolute certainty that Bramah was spot on when he said of the 10b that the 7 shows very plainly beneath the 8. It's very obvious even with the naked eye. 

The one in this link is a very clear example of a 10b, whereas the one in this link is a 10c (both with effective magnification) 

 

   

Edited September 3, 2020 by 1949threepence

[mick1271]

9 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

Bramah describes them as follows:-

From what I can tell, I'd say the coin on the left (the a/UNC one) is probably a Bramah 10c. Not sure what the one on the right is. Unfortunately the coins are slightly too far away for the magnification to be as effective as it might be.

I can say with absolute certainty that Bramah was spot on when he said of the 10b that the 7 shows very plainly beneath the 8. It's very obvious even with the naked eye. 

The one in this link is a very clear example of a 10b, whereas the one in this link is a 10c (both with effective magnification) 

 

   

Going by the upright of the 7 splitting the lower loop evenly , I would say they are both 10c.

Thanks for the information .

[rpeddie]

House Clearance

[Rob]

6 minutes ago, rpeddie said:

House Clearance

That's bizarre. Priceless.

[blakeyboy]

Genuinely troubling.

Buy that man a pint!

[1949threepence]

Very pleased with the Bramah 25c 1858/? I've just bought from Nathan Smith. Just £40 and in EF. Not certain of their true scarcity or otherwise, but it's only the second one I've seen, and the first one, which I bought for £25, is a battered sub fine, with signs of rubbed letters.

Maybe sometime cleaned, but certainly re-toning.  

link to e bay sale

 

[alfnail]

Well spotted Mike. It's another one of those 8/? dates which is often discussed, and has some unusual protrusions on the numeral 8, which aren't always obvious.......these are highlighted by red arrows in my attached picture. I think this date variety is always seen with a die flaw running from front of truncation to border.

I believe this type is a single obverse / reverse die pairing; I have always noted that the reverse paired with this particular obverse has a number of 'signature' legend repairs, the most interesting probably the repaired first A of BRITANNIAR.................also pictured below.  

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, alfnail said:

Well spotted Mike. It's another one of those 8/? dates which is often discussed, and has some unusual protrusions on the numeral 8, which aren't always obvious.......these are highlighted by red arrows in my attached picture. I think this date variety is always seen with a die flaw running from front of truncation to border.

I believe this type is a single obverse / reverse die pairing; I have always noted that the reverse paired with this particular obverse has a number of 'signature' legend repairs, the most interesting probably the repaired first A of BRITANNIAR.................also pictured below.  

Thanks Ian - checked on all the extra details you outlined above. They're all there on my coin. As you say, this must almost certainly arise form a single die pairing. The die crack is very noticeable.

As I said, only the second one I've spotted in 7 months of looking. So I think £40 is a reasonable price for a scarce coin in good condition.