bhx7 Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 As a "new collector" (after coming back after 20+ years away from the hobby) I am always intrigued at the discussion's regarding what people regard as collectable and novalties. I love a bit of everything from variants to die flaws, expecially in bronze coinage which is my main avenue of collecting. I do not have many but have studied loads of images online. I would love to see more as this unusual die flaws and quirks maybe a side collection I may take up in the future.I recently aquired a reasonable 1911 penny, about VF so nothing special; to be honest I thought it was a Gouby X but as usual it wasn't. Anyway it has a nice unusual break in the "B" of BRITT so thought I would let you all have a look. Maybe of no interest to some, but I like it. Would like to see other peoples, clogged dies, etc.. as I am sure there are some fantastic ones out there. 1 Quote
Rob Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) OK, a starter for 10. The 1824 bare head halfcrown obverse die must have been close to disintegration when this was struck. The flaws radiate from the centre in all directions and are noticeably worse than on other 1824s I have seen. Edited November 4, 2015 by Rob 1 Quote
Rob Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 An interesting double strike and the only example I have seen of Briot's milled coinage. 1 Quote
Rob Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 Lamination has been a problen as long as plate has been rolled. Pockets of air can get trapped leading to effects such as this brass 3d. The coin was held together at the periphery only, with the dark areas showing where the trapped air has oxidised the inner surface. 1 Quote
terrysoldpennies Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 This is one of my most interesting die crack coins , A piece of the penny almost the size of the Exergue is about to break away, leaving the line of the border teeth disjointed, and the second 2 enlarged. Terry 1 Quote
azda Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) An interesting double strike and the only example I have seen of Briot's milled coinage.That is an interesting coin, plus i Never thought i'd See you buy a Double struck coin. The Gold coloured one is also nice Edited November 5, 2015 by azda 1 Quote
Rob Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) It ticks the example of a 'double struck coin' box. The minting techniques and errors section is full of oddballs like this, e.g. my avatar. The gold coloured one is in Barton's Metal. As it was only used on a couple of occasions, again it was a case of grabbing it when the opportunity arose. Edited November 5, 2015 by Rob Quote
Rob Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) This is a rather extreme case of rotated double strike reading GVLIELMELM TERTIVTIVS and BRBRITANIA•16981698 Edited November 5, 2015 by Rob Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Here's my collection of errors so far (part 1) 1 Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Really love that double struck coin Rob, and that error on your coin is great Terry! Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 This arrived yesterday too, with a whopping split through the whole planchet.Would this be a die crack, split planchet, split die, lamination error? I can't find any information about when the crack is on both sides of the coin.. 1 Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 Split planetThis is the most extreme version that I know of...I'm on my cell phone and don't see where to post a linkHelp someone. .. thankswww.brokencc.com 1 Quote
Rob Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 Split planetThis is the most extreme version that I know of...I'm on my cell phone and don't see where to post a linkHelp someone. .. thankswww.brokencc.comAnd somewhat ironically, probably one of the few errors that isn't necessarily a mint error. Spellings mistakes, incorporated material, blocked dies, double striking etc, are all things that can be attributed to an individual's handiwork or are the result of normal mint activity, but a flan that just falls apart is somewhat difficult to assign blame. If the ingots from which the blanks are produced was made elsewhere, it means that someone else was to blame. Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 There is an example of a rare penny, I believe the 1862 halfpenny date, that exists as a split planchet..Regrettably, I once sold a 1862 halfpenny, die letter A, that was also a clipped planchet.Errors involving rare dates or varieties are somewhat of a white elephant, and become difficult to place a value upon...Often, an error on a rare date or variety lessens the value as most collectors want a "more perfect" specimen for their collection. . 1 Quote
REDD Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 Apart from a few date over-strikes, my pre-decimal error collection is very small.Luckily the main attraction is this... just wish it wasn't holed Quote
REDD Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Apart from a few date over-strikes, my pre-decimal error collection is very small. Luckily the main attraction is this... just wish it wasn't holed (Couldn't edit and can't delete the reply above, sorry) Edited November 6, 2015 by REDD 1 Quote
bhx7 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Posted November 6, 2015 Here is a one I have, decimal 5p so not quite the same. I have picked up quite a few anomalies in the more modern decimal coinage across numerous denominations and years.I have added a normal 5p for reference. So what would this error be classed as? Quote
bhx7 Posted November 6, 2015 Author Posted November 6, 2015 By the way thanks all. Loving the coins and the knowledgebase behind the errors! Quote
PWA 1967 Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 There is an example of a rare penny, I believe the 1862 halfpenny date, that exists as a split planchet..Regrettably, I once sold a 1862 halfpenny, die letter A, that was also a clipped planchet.Errors involving rare dates or varieties are somewhat of a white elephant, and become difficult to place a value upon...Often, an error on a rare date or variety lessens the value as most collectors want a "more perfect" specimen for their collection. .Think the 1862 halfpenny date will be the one from the Tony crocker sale. Quote
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