Stuntman Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 's fair enough Colin Cooke had an 1841 Halfcrown up for sale earlier this year - graded as EF, looked pretty nice from their pictures, and was up at £5500. Quote
DaveG38 Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I bought one about 6 months ago for £1800 - I'd say mine was a little poorer than this one, maybe NVF overall. Edited October 19, 2015 by DaveG38 Quote
VickySilver Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 CC's was better than this one, but much of the detail on this specimen is rather sharp. Definitely better than VF, but not EF overall with the unfortunate rim dings - a better picture always nice but I'd stick my neck out to GVF.The thing is, Brit milled coins of this vintage seem to be pulled a bit by that American phenomenon whereby just a bit of grade or toning improvement can occasionally translate to multiples in value increase. This date seems to be all over the map in sales as far as prices as with the higher values given in catalogues and the Auction sales prices, more seem to emerge from the recesses. Very nice ones as well - check the Heritage specimen in MS64 that recently sold.... Quote
PWA 1967 Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Colin cooke sold a mint one last year for £10,000.00. Quote
AdamCurtis Posted November 3, 2015 Author Posted November 3, 2015 Just a quick update guys. I haven't sent the coin off yet but I took it to a coin dealer who specialises in 1800-1850 English coins. He weighed and examined it and said it's definitely real and above fine quality. I'm apparently very lucky Quote
Paulus Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Great news Adam! You're in for a long wait if you're sending it to CGS I think, previously my coins have been returned in 4-5 weeks, but this time round they haven't even reached the first stage in the process, after 6 weeks ... Quote
PWA 1967 Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Thats a long time Paulus to wait six weeks without them even starting. Quote
Paulus Posted November 3, 2015 Posted November 3, 2015 I think they have had a lot of consignments recently, judging by browsing through the most recent UINs. I'm guessing a significant number which have been fast tracked too. Looks like they have been grading a bunch of 2015 £100 coins ahead of others (UIN 36800 for example).They state up to 90 days so they are nowhere near that yet, but it has never taken anything like that long before (for me) ... Quote
azda Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 Just a quick update guys. I haven't sent the coin off yet but I took it to a coin dealer who specialises in 1800-1850 English coins. He weighed and examined it and said it's definitely real and above fine quality. I'm apparently very lucky It's Most definately better than fine, it's VF and perhaps more. Quote
Paulus Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 Just a quick update guys. I haven't sent the coin off yet but I took it to a coin dealer who specialises in 1800-1850 English coins. He weighed and examined it and said it's definitely real and above fine quality. I'm apparently very lucky It's Most definately better than fine, it's VF and perhaps more.I agree, I suspect the dealer was positioning himself in case he was asked "how much would you offer me for it?" Quote
VickySilver Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 Adam, this is a coin right square in my area & would readily tell you that based on the photos that this is definitely a VF (perhaps a bit on the high side of that) and only slightly downgraded because of the edge hits. That would be very unfair to call it only F. Quote
azda Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Great news Adam! You're in for a long wait if you're sending it to CGS I think, previously my coins have been returned in 4-5 weeks, but this time round they haven't even reached the first stage in the process, after 6 weeks ...Never slab during an up coming auction, the consignments take priority over fee paying customers which I find disgusting tbh Quote
SWANNY Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 If I had a choice I would not send it to CGS , but there is not a lot of choice on where to send a coin for authentication in the UKGood luck with your grading , I hope you have better luck than I did Quote
Paulus Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 Great news Adam! You're in for a long wait if you're sending it to CGS I think, previously my coins have been returned in 4-5 weeks, but this time round they haven't even reached the first stage in the process, after 6 weeks ...Never slab during an up coming auction, the consignments take priority over fee paying customers which I find disgusting tbhJust to point out that I deliberately sent my latest small batch to CGS shortly after the last LC Auction had finished (mid September), in the hope of minimising delays! Quote
AdamCurtis Posted July 13, 2016 Author Posted July 13, 2016 Sorry to revive a dead thread but I thought I'd update you guys. I finally managed to send off the coin to CGS and it is indeed genuine! It's been rated as GEF, so I'm very happy obviously. Quote
Paulus Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, AdamCurtis said: Sorry to revive a dead thread but I thought I'd update you guys. I finally managed to send off the coin to CGS and it is indeed genuine! It's been rated as GEF, so I'm very happy obviously. Wow! GEF you say! That puts it at over £5 K according to Spink, what do CGS value it at? (Their site's 'closed' at the moment so you can't look it up, if you don't already know) Quote
PWA 1967 Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 24 minutes ago, AdamCurtis said: Sorry to revive a dead thread but I thought I'd update you guys. I finally managed to send off the coin to CGS and it is indeed genuine! It's been rated as GEF, so I'm very happy obviously. Not read all the previous posts but seen your happy and hat off Paul ....think you might have to wait for your grades a bit longer Quote
VickySilver Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Wow, that is excellent news. What numerical was it given? Are you to keep or sell? Which venue? I can see it quite possibly selling for somewhere above 6k. Quote
Stuntman Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 That's fab, I'd been wondering what had happened about this coin. Really pleased for you! Quote
Paulus Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 45 minutes ago, VickySilver said: What numerical was it given? GEF would be CGS 65 I believe Quote
azda Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Excellent news, pleased for you. Keep it in the family another 10 years and that could be a 10k coin Quote
Paulus Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, AdamCurtis said: Sorry to revive a dead thread but I thought I'd update you guys. I finally managed to send off the coin to CGS and it is indeed genuine! It's been rated as GEF, so I'm very happy obviously. What is the CGS UIN please Adam? @AdamCurtis Edited July 13, 2016 by Paulus Quote
mhcoins Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Paulus said: GEF would be CGS 65 I believe that would grade EF, yet from experience most CGS coins i've crossed graded tend to be one grade lower. Choice UNC MS66 - MS70 90-100 UNC MS64 - MS65 82-90 About UNC MS62 - MS63 80 GEF MS60 - MS61 75-78 EF AU58 - MS60 65-70 NEF AU55 55-60 GVF AU53 45-50 VF AU50 40 NVF EF45 35 GF VF35 - EF40 25-30 F VF20 - VF30 20 Quote
Paulus Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 The current comparison table has CGS 65 at GEF, I believe they changed things a few years ago Quote
mhcoins Posted July 13, 2016 Posted July 13, 2016 Thats ridiculous, the problem we have with this alternative grading scale is it simply confuses the buyers. For example MS63 (PCGS / NGC) for a milled coin is not uncirculated, Uncirculated beings at MS64. The levels which a coin is considered GEF is IMO 61 - 63 Quote
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