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Coin E shows a number of broken serifs and missing colons on D.G : and F D , the Y is blocked on the reserse. One interesting feature is an extension of raised metal on the obverse in the area of the V of VICTORIA. I have been trying to explain this as a die clash feature a raised area where the corner below the exergue on the reverse imposed .
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Coin D has a further host of over strikes C over C; I over I and A/A and G G B over B and the R . I know many have remarked on my preoccupation of what I call the "old CURLY BASED letters" but I think it is important and yes of course they could draw on a number of sets of stamps. But it is obviously something important enough for Wyon to mention the stamps and the process of hardening them . So from an historic point of view I think they deserve some attention. In this coin the old curlies are overstruck by a set of stamps that are completely different a more Robust solid flat based set. I have to then ask what was wrong with the curly ones? Perhaps this is part of the "failure" if the Legend keeps failing , breaking and blocking it must have put pressure on the dies keep overstamping . I would imagine that irregular bases have a much greater potential to stick as the pressure needed to release would have perhaps been fractionally slower than a simple even straight base. So historically I think any information we can collect the better . On the reverse the 8 as is common in a lot of these has a lump on the side and the Y is over a Y
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yeah that's very true .....if you had wanted to make a good impression you could count yourself lucky that ennies only went to the poor people that didn't have glasses and lets face it didn't care if it were 3 B's or 3 F's LLOL
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I have a couple of these within my "comma Colon" pennies, I think to think of them as ATYPICAL N over Z's. they both have a scar which is (perhaps by pure chance) in the exact space that the additional metal is on the the N over Z ( the more typical one). The obverse features are consistent with the N over Z notably the C T O R and A of victoria. The restamp of the C and A being the most typical of the N over Z pairing. Of course there is no addition of the foot of the "Z" but there has been repair to the inner circle , so I wonder and this is only an idea if this is a repaired version Is is possible the need for dies was so great that a die would be ground down and repolished to remove the error? I am just thinking here out loud most likely talking utter rubbish please feel free to tell me I dont always think much these days . This obverse has a broken colon above D:G:
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Coin B again of the Colon group is restruck in the I ;C A;D and G then multiple strikes in the B;T;R;and again the triple colon flaw after DG in this one the die run begins to encircle the marks area running through the O of HONI SO
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Coin A1 is a member of my "comma Colon Group" a die which has an irregular colon after BRITT. It shows a couple of quite interesting legend errors along with some other feature which I have seen now in two other specimens. It appears as if a third Colon was struck after F:D: and a flaw begins to form . It may be that the error was somehow "erased " by polishing the die which leads to a weakness. I have seen some on the forum talk about "half moons" additions of metal I am not sure if they are related. The I ;C and A of VICTORIA are restruck this is the 2nd example
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It is no wonder that collecting coins is so confusing for people starting out. One moment a coin with a broken F is given special status and someone decides it is a variety called an ONF. But then so many others seem to get no reference to them at all. It sometimes seems as fickle as the art market , unless someone says so most errors are unworthy even of note. The next minute they are as "rare" as hen's teeth....I am afraid I will never understand
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penny Unusual 1873 Penny
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Yes but then it looks so convincing , the "ribbons" appear to hang perfectly and it was not uncommon as a style in the period to have the ribbons hanging so an easy mistake to make -
penny Unusual 1873 Penny
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yes it looks to be I think it would be better well known if that dramatic nice though to see it like that -
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that is a beautiful example ...is this the actual die clash or the reverse superimposed on an image of the the obverse? The best similar is in an 1866 penny that sold recently on ebay where the letters could be easily read above the Queens head from the reverse . That helps me personally a lot with my Pareidolia as many of you pointed out many of the images I saw were the result of subtleties of die clashes. Still I am happy to have had that experience it made me analyse pattern so much it taught me to paint -
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1860 I am sure like many it is going to take me a bit of time to get my head around the numerous numbers and classification of the the 1860's penny. This is labelled Penny A I will cross reference with Goulby but if you experts can let me know your eyes are much faster than my novice ones. This toothed has most interestingly a rotated T over T but also is part of a die with the broken "comma" colon after BRITT . It has a V over V; C over C, an intriguing B over numerous B's and R over R and D over D. The colon after D G is also a halfish colon On the reverse the E and the N of PENNY both have laws running through them and the date is separated by a crack
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I am sure we all do hen we drink bottled water (terrible stuff) it accepted whilst it is our doing all the animals in the seas and oceans are getting their fill terrible creatures for the planet humans
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yes , what did it come out as ? lol that must have been an auto correction although no doubt the Samarian Ware is lovely too
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I think I have something that looks like a V over an Inverted A in an 1861
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I only find them interesting because they amuse me and I think as time goes on it is in some ways important to register the for future references. Of course it is lovely to have perfect specimens but I have always had a soft spot for the "imperfect" . A reflection of my own personality and life I suppose LOL. That is also why , having taken up so much on the half penny thread , I'd start my own on the Pennies. They simply illustrate a sense of "panic" from 1860 to 1863 and occasionally a little beyond.
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I think these are referred to as the oak branch set with a small box made to look like a money box used throughout the Victorian Period 2.5 Shillings , 2 shillings , shillings , sixpence penny and half penny in Iron and copper
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The Prince of Wales Box , contains 4 medalets nicely designed to show the industry of Great Britain. I think a couple of slightly different designs on the boxes
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A book is made of paper ....we are living in the age of PLASTIC
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Maybe thats the answer....and lets face it there are no official records from the mint ....so perhaps we have just been spreading fake news
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There seem to be a number of slightly different designs for the Windsor Castle Box that was used by Moore for his medalets of the Royal Family. On one the base is thicker and may have been used for the some other medalets. Rogers #4100 Rogers suggests that there are 5 or maybe more designs . Clearly here the castle Keep varies and on some the small huts houses in the Left is absent . The variation in the coat of arms varies a little but not much.
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