terrysoldpennies

Obv.

Talking of what was, and was not released into circulation , during the war my mother picked up in change a brass 3d piece, which to her was just a 3d bit to spend ,she at that time had absolutely no thoughts at all of coin collecting , as after all there was a war on and she was a teenager with thoughts only of spending money . Anyway, she just glancing at the coin and noticed that the tails side was different to the normal 3d, being as she said, different with more of a stylised design than normal , but then gave the coin no more thought, and passed it to the bus conductor to pay for her fare . Well, many years later , after starting to collect coins, she found out about the Edward viii 3d piece with the stylised reverse, and knew that was what she had held in her hand all those years before , she felt sick, thinking if only I had known of there existence at the time, and if only she had turned the coin over she might have noticed that it was an Edward viii 3d, and not the George vi . I believe these were all pattern coins, and were not supposed to be released into circulation. God knows what there worth today, maybe one of you on here has one , let us know. It makes me wonder what may have passed through my hands without my knowing about its rarity . Terry

Good to hear from you Matt, we all thought you had given up collecting. T

Freeman 3+d

It certainly was not a 1911 obverse as it has the small head portrait found on 1928 to 1936 coins . Terry

No . the bidding was ended early by the seller. Terry

I was following that one Ian . Sweet talking early bidder, off line ?, or maybe the seller was informed just exactly what it was he was selling. Terry

Welcome Dave , Its a Freeman 3+d F13 one of the common types. Terry

Here's another. Rotated I in VICTORIA 1862 Terry

No , only the 1958 broad rim coins. Pic below shows the 1957 and 59 along side the 1958s

Hi Geoff. We have discussed this before on the forum . look in search = [1958 half penny variations] 23rd Jun 2016. all of the broad rim coins I have found all have longer teeth, and if I my add, that I have found a total of four differing types, so yours being a broad rim short tooth type would make it five types . The other consideration is , are you certain your coin is the widest rim type . I trust that makes it as clear as mud. See the post and compare yours with them. Terry

Well Richard I can't find any of these open Ps among my 1861 to 74 coins, it does seem to show that there are an enormous number of variations made to a more or less similar design during the first three years of the bronze coin production. I guess many more are still out there to be discovered . Terry

P.s I have only ever found the P to Tooth Rev. Gs on 1861 coins , none of the subsequent years to 1874, but then you out there may prove me to be wrong. Terry

6+g

6+g

4+g

4+g P in Penny to tooth

Yes Richard, with some Obv. 4s ,and they normally also have the 6+1 in the date, closer together than on the normal Rev.Gs, Just found the Obv 6 and the 6+1 are wide apart . Terry

Nice one Mike, I saw that one on line , its the scarcer type which I discovered with the P in PENNY rotated left to point at the tooth. Almost all Rev. Freeman G coins have the P pointing to the gap Terry

Richard , when you look at the biding, I think its two of his friends biding it up. Terry

Thanks Nick , that's what I thought, in my 1953 set all the coins are cameo. Terry

Nick, are the bronze coins in the set Cameo. Terry

I bought this 1953 penny last week , it was described as a Proof, but after some research came to the conclusion that its what the Americans call a Cameo. Well, that's what I consider it to be from all that I have read . After all, it is a Proof, but it has a matt finish to the detail on the coin , but the field is highly polished. Its known and documented that Bright finish and Matt finish coins were made in 1953, but as far as I am aware , not so this two tone type. Richard and I both knew nothing about them, hence this post by him, well is this just a description of the contrast between the different surfaces, or should we always describe this twin type finish on a coin as Cameo. Also as far as I can tell, of all the pre-decimal bronze pennies produced for 110 years this so called Cameo finish was only ever used in 1953. I believe this type was only made for VIP sets, and have no idea as to its rarity. Below are the three types of finish found on a 1953 Penny. If you can tell us more, please let us know. Terry