terrysoldpennies

Sometimes a weather shot turns up quite unexpectedly and you just have to be quick with the camera, just as this did over my front gate a couple of years back.

Photos certainly can be very deceptive, and I was concerned as to whether it had been cleaned or not, but in this case it was fine and the appearance is identical to the other bright finish coins of the other years around it in the collection, though there is some very slight toning . I my experience cleaning coins never brings the whole serface of the coin back to a brand new mint finish , as they frequently look patchy ,and also often leaves the edge around the legend and teeth looking slightly darker in tone. Natural toning may also be responsible for the loss of some light finish coins , as distinguishing the difference between them and Hypo coated coins is made more difficult.

I read somewhere on the forum that there is a ratio of about 6 to 1 so very scarce in high grade.

I received this in the post this morning. I bought it because I thought it to be a 1944 bright finish with the wide date and recut waves. I waited for it to come in so as to be sure, and it does appear to be the bright finish type. Does anyone know if all of the wide date type were bright finished or were most darkened as with the standard date width type.

Hoovering SUCKS full stop.

An interesting point Pete . The only thing that comes to mind is that this was at the height of the great depression, and that maybe they were experimenting with different alloys or darkening processes so as to save money on the more expensive metals, the half penny was still being produced in the bright finish as normal.

Because of a change in the metal content mixtures due to the War . Page 63 The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain . Freeman

There not that rare Mike , I had a count up of the 1940s pennies put away by my mother back in the 1960s, there are 86 Double and 12 single . that's about 7 to 1 . that proportion my have changed due to hoarding of the single type

It is hard to find a decent one, this is the best one iv managed to find so far i picked it up about a year ago, not as nice as RIchards though.

Have you seen this. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6882583/Former-appeal-judge-says-legality-Brexit-extension-tested-court.html

No problem, I get the Chinese to make you one.

Does that put it back in your price range Richard. ?

Thanks Pete, Down some what from 135K

He does mean 1952 , it was for sale with Rasmussen. Is it with LCA Pete.

What's the betting even after the coinage goes electronic the Mint will still carry on producing this pseudo coinage

Interesting, it looks like they were trying out different designs for some reason. ?

I do agree with you Richard, and I guess that's why Freeman just added a foot note, but I think it is interesting.

The Bronze Coinage of Great Britain Freeman , page 74 number 18 latest edition . I took pictures from all over so as to compile this, so I hope you don't mind , but your right, but my 7 0ver 7 has the narrow ribbon as I note some of the others seem to be of both types.

The ribbon on the 6 is not crinkled the 9 is thick like the 8, and the 10 11 12 have the ribbon pointing down.

I'm surprised to here you say that Richard. Here are three worn examples . 8+h / 7+g / 7+h Note the gap between the ribbons is wider on both the 7s , and if yours are different then there are two types of 7+g F71. I have only found this type on the 1874H

As Richard says the 7 has a narrow ribbon , with the 8 being wide , and as the obv.8 can only be found on Royal Mint 1874s its a good identifier , but it might be of interest to some that the Obv 7 on the 7+g F71 1874H has a slightly wider ribbon than is to be found on the normal Obv 7 . As far as I can tell all the other combinations of 1874 and 1874H with Obv. 7 have the narrowest ribbon. I think I read about this in freeman, who thought it was a transition feature between 7 and 8 , Examples below in order 8 / wide ribbon 7 / narrow ribbon 7

Or this one if you prefer a bit of colour. Anyone can get that effect by just using a blow torch on a bright untarnished bronze coin.

Everything Has been Americanised , one that grates with me is TWO TIMES what's wrong with TWICE, its quicker to say. Most of the words in the English dictionary will disappear in the come decades due to lack of use.

BBC more better English !!!