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Not again, they really need to get their act together! Most of these have an incorrect die axis, so should be easy to spot! More of the same I guess. Their catalog has so many certified coins that don't conform to their grading guidelines (ummmm I wonder what's happening there) http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchlot=1679&searchtype=2&page=Catalogue - PCGS 63 - CGS 82 http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchlot=1771&searchtype=2&page=Catalogue - NGC 63 - CGS 80 http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchlot=1729&searchtype=2&page=Catalogue - NGC 65 - CGS 85 http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchlot=2184&searchtype=2&page=Catalogue - PCGS 64 - CGS 82 abc coin was graded MS 63 and was regraded by CGS as 82 ---

Agree with Nick If your coin is uncirculated (full mint shine and clear details without any scratches or blemishes) then it maybe worth upto £ 35. For worn coins the price offered could be less than £ 1. However there are some 1912 variants that are scarce The 1912 H penny in uncirculated can be worth £ 130. The 1912 2 on 1 can be worth a lot more. A photo could help

Well spotted Prax.

Nice one Prax and Pete so we have the double 4 type in both large and small date coins.

"but that's the story he was told when he bought it in 1938 just before the war for the princely price of £2.8s" Wow some money for that story. He fails to say how much was paid for the coin though!!! Free English lessons on the forum

Doubled 4!!! Does anyone have a good pic of this type please?

I would agree with that, the 2nd most common of the 12 generally acknowledged 1874 varieties. Looks around GVF, retail price £30-£35 perhaps less as mid-grade bun pennies are hardly flying off the shelves at present. The 1d boys seem to go for GEF + unless its one of those "RARE" blank discs...open 3 type thingies . I won't split hairs on the grade but it is a very nice GVF maybe approaching NEF. If MP sold it he would grade GEF. Close, I would have guessed 'Practically UNC'Wrong terminology ... He uses virtually uncirculated ... Spink say the coin is worth £1000

Could not have said it any better

CGS is a joke. Send your coins to grade and you will find them seriously under-rated. At the same time buy off their inventory and you would be scratching your head about how this coin got such a high grade. On their no verdigiris policy; look at the 1882 penny that recently sold on ebay. How easily their standards change based on the coin’s rarity or its owner is a joke. Avoid CGS like the plague a) they don’t stick to their 90 day window, their slabs are very low grade and show cracks within 2 years and c) they will not give your coin a grade it deserves. If that’s not enough try selling a CGS graded coin at one of the bigger American auction houses and they will spit at you

September auction at London coins had a pretty convincing no H with an obverse 12 which was ex Seaby http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/img.php?a=146&l=2720&f=r&s=l http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/img.php?a=146&l=2720&f=o&s=l As a general rule there are no 1882 no Hs with obv 12. The ex Seaby coin was one of its kind in it that it was a higher grade (GVF) coin with 'almost' no sign of a H. The collectors (in my opinion) who purchased the coin not because it was a no H but because it was an ex Seaby coin. Further there have been no 1882 obv 12 coins in fine plus grade without the H and all experts agree that there are no 1882 obv 12 no H coins. This case is similar to Bamford's 1876 no H penny. In Gouby's book it is clearly stated that Bamford himself did not believe that it was a no H but kept it regardless as it was a one of a kind. When the coin was listed in auction it was not listed as a no H penny but as ex Bamford and it did attract considerable interest. In similar fashion this is ex Seaby is also wanted not because it is a no H but because of its provenance.

Looks like it was made to decive. Someone went to the extent of engineering the date as opposed to deleting the H. A clever try but a bogus nonetheless

One perhaps but not a certainity

A worn penny sells for £ 200 http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRITISH-QUEEN-VICTORIA-VERY-RARE-039-1882-PENNY-WITH-NO-039-H-039-/201257836694?nma=true&si=405vKnNoUtgFR93mqpyRvlNavyM%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It is not even a no H or is it?

Virtually UNC

A classic of the recent times http://www.ebay.com/itm/1871-QUEEN-VICTORIA-BRONZE-BUN-HEAD-PENNY-EXTREMELY-RARE-VIRTUALLY-UNC-/111569484236?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item19fa0f39cc

Preax Do you have a pic of the reverse. There is an established set of combinations for C1. Gary

Here's someone who knows how the abcs of Economics. Nice one Peckris