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Thanks Bernie. Their are a whole lot of followers listed. I assume they are waiting till the last few minutes to bid. Somehow I thought if the item did not end with a Buy It Now then it might fetch lot more. The other mules on ebay are struggling to fetch £600 but they are TB/BB

This thread is a direct reference to me "Idiot collecting ....." Bernie I would like to challenge you on the number one fan claim I hold a research degree and I can assure you that there is no better way to have conducted research on pennies except the way Freeman did. It is almost perfect. Thanks from the bottom of my heart Mr Freeman

Lovely 1873. I have not seen a specimen with 70% plus luster in a long time for this year.

Dave, I on I or 1 on 1 is fairly common. The things to note with the obv 6 pennies is the R or B or V over A. Value wise I doubt if the overstrike would add anything to the overall value. Pete, I am not too sure of a I over I on the 1860 I asked because I was curious as the obv 6 is rare on the 1860 and any abnormalities would make the coin just that little bit more interesting.

Nice I over I. Is it a 1860?

Dave, I think it's about the resolution of the pics, which isn't great with Omnicoin

Yes Rev H. Another point to consider is that Rev G is widely spaced as well.

The reason I think it did not sell (yet) was because there were at least 5 BB/TB in the market in just one year. Jackson's NGC MS 64 RB that sold for £2200 Terry Vaug's Fine specimen in Cardiff Galleries that sold for £480 Another ebay specimen sold in Apr this year was in fair grade and sold for £220 A poor grade specimen in LCA 2418 that sold for £350 There is also another in poor grade ex LCA specimen currently on ebay for sale. These are all F8s. There have also been 3 F9s that have hit the market including Larry Sinclair's that has remained unsold both on ebay and at LCA. So in general that's been like a mule every month and half.

Awful coin Pete. You should consider getting rid of it. Have I convinced you of selling it to "ME" Pete? Lovely stuff the 4 or 5 you had graded recently. This the 1865 and 1868 seem like real keepers. Good find and were they all from Neil?

All the copper and bronze fans are busy buying up stuff wherever they can find them and driving prices up like crazy Only hapennies and sixpences are coins currently seeing a subdued demand. Half Crowns and gold seems to be doing so well that we are still talking about Stanley like it just happened yesterday. Back to your penny Nightvision, oh BTW welcome on-board. It's a lovely coin something that can easily be graded GXF or above (good) extra fine. It's not a scarce date but there is one major variant and half a dozen minor variants. The close close date version being the major variant. From the pics posted it looks like a normal 1889. If you are collecting pennies good luck to you. However bronze and copper coins are very prone to environmental damage so please do invest generously on storage and accessories. Gold and silver are far easy to conserve considering noble metals don't react easily. However due to their soft nature they tend to get scratched or dented easily.

I have come across what looks like a 1862 half penny with the penny's 6 and 2 or at least it looks very weird to me The half penny 6 is generally leaning towards the right and the 2 is generally leaning to the left. In this half penny that I have found the 6 and 2 are more upright like the ones you would find on a 1862 penny and the 8, 6 and 2 are very slightly larger. Has anyone come across something similar please? I am not inclined to believe it's a new variety or something but I just felt it was abnormal considering there is a penny version with half penny numerals.

Not something one would call a rarity but a nice grade coin

One more from Mr Jackson

Each of us has our own approach. However one thing is certain "no one takes the piss on this forum". I have followed Daves' (Azda and DG's) comments on numerous threads and not only do I like them but also I do learn from them. The problem like Jerry points out is most newbies have high hopes. They look at a coin and immediately think out of the varieties the one in their hands is of the scarcest type. A classic example is the person who came asking about the 1922 penny the other day. Personally I don't post if the coin involved is not a penny (purely because I don't collect anything else) and I also don't take a measured approach when I pull people down from stratosphere. Not because I want to humiliate anyone but because I believe people need a reality check. At the same time I also share your excitement when someone has hit the jackpot. I am sure most people on this forum are the same. As long as the intentions are good there's no harm done .................

I bump into here at least once a day

Rob, The ja is an extension of j. The features that you have in your pic of the old Gouby book are common to both to rev j and ja. Ja came into existence due to die wear. The die wear on 1874 was progressive and the 3 pennies that I have seen have one common feature the hair on the back of the neck (which is shorter on ja). The other features are still emerging on most of the 1874 ja examples. However the die wear was perhaps complete by 1874 because the revs of 1875 onwards are always ja. Initially Gouby just had j which you show in your pic however he noticed that though 1875 and 77 narrow dates had what he thought was j he noticed that most of the 1874 narrow dates differed from the narrow dates of 1875 and 1877. So he regrouped these reverses (of 1875/77) as ja and identified the 1874 narrow date pennies which had a different reverse as the 1875/77 as j. The ja version of 1874 is rare and that is what Jerry has posted. .

This one is for you Rob!!! These are the features I use. The sure shot for me is the hair on her neck

The following things are different from the normal type i) The hair on Britannia's neck short ii) The last strand of hair coming from Brit's head separates from the rest and is straighter iii) There are no rocks or at times a single small rock These are the major clinchers

Lovely coin only 3rd specimen that I have seen since 2010 and better than the other 2. Will offer £400 if you want to sell

Lovely coin Pete and some nice coins on ebay from you Coinery

The £1800 was inclusive of premium so I had bid £1500. It's a nice coin no doubt but that was not a carbon spot and without that the coin may have been worth £2600 considering others in high grades have sold for similar amounts http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&auc=124&searchlot=678&searchtype=2 http://www.colincooke.com/coin_images/workman2/2-007a.jpg (Nov 2010 sold for £2000+premium) But the point I wanted to highlight was misrepresentaion of grades by another reputed auction house. That definitely was not a carbon spot. If it was someone who left an absentee bid on that coin I am sure he is going to be well pi$$ed off.

Here's the Baldwin example for comparison. I bid on that as well but pulled out at £1800. I am informed it sold for just under £2600 inc premium. BTW, It definitely is not a carbon spot on the helmet (I inspected the coin at the sale and it is verdigris with a pit on the surface resulting from corrosion) https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=1086&lot=214

The ask was £2700 I managed it for £2250. It hammered for $2000 or $2.2k add the fees etc it works out $2500 (about £1750). To bring it to the UK was another 20% customs/VAT, then the dealer profits. The dealer supplying me has 18 coins from the sale and I have so far acquired 10.

Joins my other pennies this afternoon

Lovely coin Pete. I like this tread too. Needs resurrection. I will post pics of a few coins I have recently acquired ex Jackson