Michael-Roo

Completed listings shows it last closed at £155 so I suspect, whatever the seller ID, she's now so familiar people are happy to have a bit of fun at her expense. Who here remembers the slightly faulty decimal coin she asked a million for because she wanted to buy a chippy?

Currently at £54 and 24 bids.

"The coin does have a small hole on it likely to be from use." Eh?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385421080558?hash=item59bce2f7ee:g:SCwAAOSwhtxj7Tf7 I see the lucky chimney find is at £37, with 17 bids, and with 6 days still to run. I suspect it likely a few rascals having a bit of fun? Poor dear, she's been let down in the past by winning bidders who failed to pay up for her 1933 pennies hasn't she. Tsk, you just can't depend on people these days. So, fingers crossed this time eh? Told it may be worth around a quarter of a million, so listed on eBay, without reserve, at a starting price of 99p.🤞

I despair, I really do. How long would it have taken this div to search eBay for the same coin before listing? It took me as long as it took to type '50 pence 1997 Bailiwick of Guernsey'. https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=50+pence+1997+bailiwick+of+guernsey&_sacat=11116

Is this the 1860 mule you were grading Uncirculated?

The third came in a Whitman folder with a date run of other worn pennies and a crude hole had been cut in the margin of one of the pages for the 1933. The collection had been bought at a charity sale held at The Church of St Cross in Middleton.

The seller ID may be fresh but that idiosyncratic voice is familiar. Is this now a third 1933 penny and accompanying tall tale in as many years?

My guess is PMD.

I agree.

I'm pretty sure I see the remains of an H in that photo.

Yup. His latest round of surgery.

Don't have nightmares....

Four Feather Falls, Supercar, Fireball XL5, Stingray.

See also between Victoria's neck and ribbons for a mirror image of Britannia's drapery.

Yes, I've just now tried to use their webpage too and after which noticed this thread in Google. As Mike says: not good.

I have many 19th and 20th century sovs, none of which look anything like this. That's a weirdly yellow/green gold. Solid or plated?

'About Fine'? I think not.

Same.

Yes, that's the collection coin, and what a beauty it is. A keeper!

The reverse:

To be frank I think £200 would be optimistic and I doubt you'd even get back the £155 you paid eighteen years ago. But you're not looking to sell so value doesn't really matter. Remember, this one of mine, a little better than yours and sitting in a world wide shop window, didn't sell at £75.

The notes on the envelope look to be in Colin Cooke's hand.

This is the 1673 'no obverse stops' farthing from the Colin Cooke collection. Graded Fine, which clearly it isn't. Comparable to your coin, though the reverse looks a little better. I'm having difficulty matching the two from the photos. Are you sure they are one and the same?

While provenance and pedigree will always carry a premium it is terribly important to grade accurately when assessing value. The two examples sold through LCA were accurately graded by them as 'bold fine' and 'better than fine and bold', though the latter had inexplicably been rebadged as near extremely fine when offered for sale by Coins and Banknotes. If you compare your own coin with the two LCA coins you will see immediately it had been overgraded when sold to you as 'a bold fine'. My own assessment of your farthing would be no higher than very good (VG). With regards to scarcity, these are not the 'extremely rare' variety they were once thought to be and while those in grades above fine will always be sought after and achieve decent prices mediocre examples are not difficult to find. I have five 1673 no obverse stops farthings in grades fair to very fine+ and with both reverse dies for normal and wide dates. Joe Lee (farthingshalfpennyerrors.com) also has five in grades good fair to good fine+. As for value, my advice would be look to the LCA sales and adjust downward accordingly. There's one on eBay (wide date), which is a little better than yours, being offered for £190 but the listing has been there forever and I doubt it will sell at that price. You'll see I've included photos of three of my five with this mail. These I grade 1) near fine 2) bold fine 3) very fine+. Last year I had the near fine coin listed on eBay starting at what I considered a very fair £95. After several months of no interest, and after having reduced the price to £75, I cancelled the listing.