Gary1000

If I remember right, Martin Coles Harman was an eccentric (American?) who possibly had bought Lundy Isle or at least owned a good deal of its land - he decided to issue his own currency but again (if I remember right) he was prosecuted by HM Government and told in no uncertain terms that he couldn't. That's a nice pair you have there. Harman was born in Sussex, so not an American. However, I think your assessment of him having been "eccentric" is probably accurate. He bought ALL of Lundy Isle in 1924, declared himself King, and issued the half puffin and puffin by 1929. Some of these coins did actually see circulation as money on the island, so I would not consider them strictly "fantasy" pieces. Eventually, Harman was prosecuted, but fined a laughably small amount. After his prosecution, the remainder of the coins were withdrawn and remain collector pieces today. The restrike/reissue pieces of 1965 (in both copper and gilt) of the same design are considered truly fantasy pieces. With regard to the "slabbing", I hear the deeply entrenched hatred of plastic on the other side of the pond and it's a little tiring. But, for my collecting interests, 1) I never pay a premium for plastic, and 2) the plastic does offer some additional protection from the elements and mishandling. As I have mentioned before, any collector who systematically and dogmatically avoids slabbed coins will miss out on a lot of high quality items. I buy what I like, and have over the course of the last decade or so developed a very picky taste. If it happens to be in plastic, so be it. The coin is the coin, anything else is a distraction from the hobby. I have myself bought about half a dozen slabbed coins and I see nothing wrong with them as a form of protecting the contents. I don't think it's slabbing par se that is disliked over here in the UK it's what appears to be the mindless chasing irrespective of the content of the highest numbers, continuous trading up and crossing to try and get a higher number. It makes one wonder if they are coin collectors or just slab collectors.

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Lundy Puffins Being effectively fantasy pieces I'm a little suprised to see them being slabbed.

£125 for the £15 copies says it all.

That That's been around a couple of times now. I think it would need to drop at least £500 possibly £1000 before its about right.

Guess what arrived in the post today, that was quick. I'll give it a try when I get home tonight. Looking at it there's plenty of profit margin in it, won't be long before they are starting at 99p.

I think it may have been planned but never happened. Anyway I think the Nazis would have made a better job of it, I mean its under weight by about a third and has a milled edge. Only a fool would have been fooled by that one. The same fools who were taken in by an elaborate bluff that Calais would be the main focus of invasion on D Day? But I take your point. How would fake crowns destabilise the economy? 3/4 of a million 1935 crowns as against getting on for half a billion halfcrowns in circulation? No, the fake fiver was the real deal. Weren't the white fivers to be dropped by aeroplane. 3/4 million 1935 crowns would chip a few roof tiles.....where's me tin hat.

I think the problems arise when it's a specialist field with little general encyclopedic source material - which is certainly true of coins: while positively bursting at the seams with tomes on this or that area of numismatics, it lacks a decent general reference source. The Wikipedia editors are therefore a bit stuffed when leaning on contributors for citations, if there aren't any readily to hand. Rob, is this the brockage mistake? "In coin collecting, brockage refers to a type of error coin in which one side of the coin has both the normal image and a mirror image of the opposite side impressed upon it." That is a really stupid mistake - how can one side of the coin feature both conditions? And what's on the other side? You are free to edit that yourself Rob, or I could. (Edited: in fact, I just did!) Yes, but isnt that true of Predecimal.com too. Who would guess that that had anything to do with lsd. That's a good point, though marginally less generic. I suppose if you substituted die clash for brockage you would be closer.

Doesn't do anything for me I afraid Rob. Just looks like a battered 5 to me.

I think it is still partial as we are over a month away. I hope it's only a partial as I should be having a lot in there and there's no sign of it yet.

It's where bits of the legend started to wear - the relevant letters were 're-cut' but as they couldn't be aligned with the previous letter absolutely exactly, you see this 'doubling' effect. Very common in the 19th Century. Yes, sometimes there are cases where coins are double struck, but then you see it all over not just certain letters. I read somewhere that double struck all over is likely to be caused in the hubbing process so the doubling is in the die.

Nor I! I might possibly buy a pint, but I'd be as burdened as a pack horse when doing so! Glad to hear so. I was just a little perplexed by Gary D's question - it sounded like a dig at me. Sorry if you thought it was aimed at you, it wasn't mt intention. It was, maybe rather flippant, a remark about the price of a pint in a pub now days.

I just click on the time from last post on the far right, it takes you to the last post.

Without trying to highjack this topic too much and now NRP is here. My intention is to sell my collection leading up to my retirement, so in about 5-6 years time. What are the mechanics of doing this, I quite like the idea of the type of auction that CC have had over the last few years. Also what are the tax ramifications of selling a large collection. I'm just looking for generalisations here as I'm sure this would be of interest to other forum members.

Maybe. This had crossed my mind but putting it back to auction would be a big risk and the commission could be the killer. I've got 3k in it and would prefer to not take any risks.

What did you get Gary? I got the 1935 proof crown listed as ESQ 377 fine silver. Now that I have been able examine it more closely it's actually a ESQ377A 0.500 silver. The 377A according to Rayner is the rarer but having two of them doesn't make it twice as rare. The big disappointment is that I thought I was going to fill that last big hole in my collection and I don't know when another one will come up. Only having bought a couple of times from a major auction companies what are my options.

I thought that a lot of the lots went not much above estimate with quite a few between estimates. I think you could count the lots that went over double top estimate on both hands. The viccy crowns and half crowns were very strong. A lot I hadn't notice that is comming up today will be interesting, I hadn't noticed it because the set didn't include the crown. It's the 1953 coronation set and it has all of the unlisted Davies types, including the toothed penny. 20k plus anyone.

Well I got mine, I said I would be happy if I got it for twice estimate, and that's what I paid. Dam those Japs

Is anyone going to attend tomorrow?

I don't like the carbon spot right in the middle of reverse. Spoils an otherwise good coin.

Just to put this one to bed and to positively ID the fact this was a shill bid, there was a FB left for Platt in August from barrybestcoins, so we can safely say that this is another ebayer involved with MP top class buyer A+++ highly recommended 10/10 thanks for BACS payment Seller: Member ID barrybestcoins ( Feedback score of 2739) 23-Aug-13 18:37 Platt has changed his id from *classic*british*coins* to now bitish-coins-uk where you can see the FB left Just to add, another of his shill bidders is currently winning the 1827 Penny...............sonofcork with a 401 FB (yes Martin, i can see you private listing) BACS payment, that handly keeps paypal out of the loop

Just a note of warning regarding coin cabinets. You often see some on ebay that are stained MDF or something similar. The wrong wood will do terible things to your coins. Mahogany is the favourite but is expensive.

It comes to something when describing a coin as a forgery is dishonest! but I do know what you mean I suppose it comes to something when a forgery can sell for a couple of hundred, and a boring old repro sells for about £10. My problem is that it's a modern repro which you can buy for £14.99 that has been put in an old envelope rapped in a peice of news paper dated 1934. That is just designed to deceive.

http://money.uk.msn.com/news/bank-drafts-plans-for-plastic-notes

They come up on ebay regularly, as genuine obvisiosly.