copper123

Obverse looks badly struck on purpose , or the die is deliberately weak - I havent a clue why. Neither coin has suffered wear

the coin does not show any signs of circulation - if it had been in fine grade and produced 150 odd years ago it would have edge knocks,scratches wear and other things fron circulation - this alone should have bells ringing that somethings wrong when it does not

where are the proper lines on the shield? Obvious fake. lighthouse and ship are all wrong too as is victorias hair - should not fool anyone really

theres a Gs over finishing on ebay tonight in a few minutes should give a clue as to what mines worth

Grade can never be improved - what can improve a coin is eye appeal This is a coin with eye appeal now

this is now looking a bit like an ad for verdicare .lol

I feel I have gone as far as I can with cleaning the obverse and am pretty happy with it now -I will put on a pic of the reverse in a week or two I still feel it needs a bit more work

only when you find them in a 50p rummage box scott

Somebody must be buying those kew gardens ans undated 20p coins and the latest craze the edinburgh £1 coins , ok they prob aint chavs but they certainly aint coin collectors either.

I often think proof sets should come with instructions and not be sold to chavs

Coin has had 5 or six treatments now and is looking a lot better - I will post pics of the obverse and reverse on in early feb so you lot can see the change in the coin

So the instruction "Not to be sold on ebay" should be stamped on the coins - it would be clear enough them ,LOL

Have they nothing better to do? penny collectors

If the goverment are so keen to give these out for free then claim them back , why did they not do the same thing with the trial brass 3d pieces in 1937 ?

"Found one in the street" word has got around fast they are worthless hasn't it! Just another coin to chuck into the street and watch the cars run over it

aye aye , who you lookin at soft lad?

some strange people about

I beg to differ - there will be more publicity into the run up of the march issue - I would expect them to hit £20-£25 by the summer - then i think might be the best time to sell

THATS NICE!

Funny enough when newspapers get a bee under their bonnet about a certain tv programe or anything else they often end up having the oposite effect to the one they wanted . I remember when mrs browns boys came on the bbc the mail ranted and raved , dont watch this programme it vile and horrible week in week out, for months . Result - mrs browns boys is the most watched comedy programe on bbc not forgeting the xmas specials) and gets voted the best ever sitcom . I supose there is no such thing as bad publicity

Have you been missold a undated 20p? Did you realise you can get full compensation from this evil act on ebay - please contact the numismatic sales onbudsman now and claim you compensation which can be spent in any way you choose As long as it's on a package holiday to syria .

To be honest I thought this as well its a format that has worked well twice before , and I did tell everyone on here to fill their boots With edinburgh pound coins ),months ago and kept repeating it . The one thing that has me totally surprised is the fact that the great british public never seem to forget or loose interest in these urban legend coins . Its been over five years since the undated 20p was anounced to the public even though it was known of six months before the press anouncement and it still fetches ten times its worth. I really wonder what sort of person is buying these coins , and why , they are not coin collectors or have little interest in coins but still they buy , has anyone any ideas why? Is it a follow the leader like thing and who is the leader ? The daily mail, the sun or the mirror . Have wer created in this country a class of people that cannot think for themselves and have to be told what to buy on the internet by the media because they are mindless and week willed ? Just thinking out loud !

obviously sales were slow that day so he picked your change out of a tray!

yes idot is the person that will buy it not the person that gave it , wonders if peter is quids in with a mint bag?