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Recived the coin today, the bust does appear to be frosty but not as frosty as the pictures suggest unless you change the angle and move it around in your hand. So I'm unsure as to whether its a really nice "normal proof" or a "sandblasted proof". However the normal proof 1953 threepences I have seen don't display any cameo affect. Rob does your 1958 6d appear as frosty and cameo no matter how you hold it, as it does in your pictures?

Based on the image I'd say yes. Interestingly and as an aside, my 1960 VIP proof 3d is not from sandblasted dies and is only a polished die. I don't know when the changeover took place as I don't have any intermediate years or whether both polished and sandblasted pieces were produced for this year. Thanks Rob you have confirmed my hunch, lets see if others also agree. If they do It could be purchase of the month for me. I haven't seen your 1960 3p but your 1958 sandblasted 6p ia a real gem. Based on the image I'd say yes. Interestingly and as an aside, my 1960 VIP proof 3d is not from sandblasted dies and is only a polished die. I don't know when the changeover took place as I don't have any intermediate years or whether both polished and sandblasted pieces were produced for this year. Thanks Rob you have confirmed my hunch, lets see if others also agree. If they do It could be purchase of the month for me. I haven't seen your 1960 3p but your 1958 sandblasted 6p ia a real gem. P.s. According to Coincraft 1998 edition there were proofs minted for most years of Queen Elizabeth II threepences, but only in 1953 do you get a proof as well as a proof from sandblasted dies.

Do you think this coin is made using the sandblasted dies as apposed to the normal proof polished dies? The frosted bust etc suggests to me it is and according to my Coincraft 1998 book they where some (vip) sandblasted die minted threepences of that year.

Wow that is some coin! I prefare the first view as well.

Very informative article, thanks for sharing Scottishmoney.

Thanks, you learn something new here all the time.

Congrats, many happy returns!

Sorry Stalker, It was going for a reasonable price, and I liked it to. I'm sure there will be times when you win and I lose. Mind you maybe I shouldn't have admitted to it. With a name like "Stalker" I'm getting abit worried.

Chris envy and jealousy both come into play here! most of us could only dream of a job which was derived from our no1 hobby.

I think it would make a nice diplay piece, if you framed it along with some information. After all it might not be worth much but it is a part of the history of your house or a least the land its on.

Hi Stalker and welcome! I'm 27 and my wife and friends think I'm a bit of a geek, but then again I have never been "normal".

Congratulations Chris! I hope you have alot of success your a nice bloke and deserve it.

Thanks for your replys everyone. I can now begin to appreciate how hard it is to grade hammered coins, but it won't stop me buying some more.

Thanks Tom. I can't seem to get my head round hammered coin grading. So how can you determine an Ef grade? If the bust really clear and the all the lettering isn't clear would that knock it down to a vf? Have you got any pictures of Vf or Ef hammered coins for comparison?

To start with I will just mention that I don't know much about hammered, but I was just wondering? If you have a nice example of a hammered coin say EF and there was a planchet flaw (small split) on the coin in the middle and this was caused while being struck. Would it affect the price much?

Great Britain 1817 Shilling Struck 20% Off Center Error. Yet to recive it but it looks interesting.

I followed it on the internet. Prices were more rational than of late. The few pieces went significantly over estimate, but there were a lot a passes and around or below estimates. I lost the plot (or perhaps I should say two others did) on the EF elephant halfpenny lot 344 which sold for £7000 hammer against an estimate of £1000-1200. I wonder if they where Americans? was this coin the same as, or similar to thier colonial token. If I am correct it is has the same elephant on it as their colonial elephant token minted probably in London and issued in 1694. They are now know as the Carolina, and the New England, Elephant tokens. Are those pictures your coin? If so, you are in the money. I wish! no they are from this great american coin website. here is the link: http://coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/elepha...hant_tokens.htm I followed it on the internet. Prices were more rational than of late. The few pieces went significantly over estimate, but there were a lot a passes and around or below estimates. I lost the plot (or perhaps I should say two others did) on the EF elephant halfpenny lot 344 which sold for £7000 hammer against an estimate of £1000-1200. I wonder if they where Americans? was this coin the same as, or similar to thier colonial token. If I am correct it is has the same elephant on it as their colonial elephant token minted probably in London and issued in 1694. They are now know as the Carolina, and the New England, Elephant tokens. Are those pictures your coin? If so, you are in the money. I wish! no they are from this great american coin website. here is the link: http://coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/elepha...hant_tokens.htm and http://coinfacts.com/

I followed it on the internet. Prices were more rational than of late. The few pieces went significantly over estimate, but there were a lot a passes and around or below estimates. I lost the plot (or perhaps I should say two others did) on the EF elephant halfpenny lot 344 which sold for £7000 hammer against an estimate of £1000-1200. I wonder if they where Americans? was this coin the same as, or similar to thier colonial token. If I am correct it is has the same elephant on it as their colonial elephant token minted probably in London and issued in 1694. They are now know as the Carolina, and the New England, Elephant tokens.

Yep so's my Mrs, they take up less room apparently.

Well sometimes you just gotta take risks!

Wow thats very impressive Teg.

Ok thanks once again for your advice Chris. I think I shall give this one a body swerve in that case.

That’s exactly what I thought, but if it was kept as a pocket piece that would explain the wear, or possibly even struck in a loose collar would that not account for the weak detail, because some of the energy would be supplied out to the sides? Anyway I have a chance of buying it cheap, but I don't want to if it has been tampered with. (I.e. modern damage). That’s why I thought I'd get some expert advice here first.

Do you think this farthing is a trial or error? It is on a thick planchet and the edge is smooth. Any oppinions welcome, thanks.

Do you have any pictures of the obverse?