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I just looked thru 10 1904 Pennies, and didn't find any with the 4 over the tooth! I would assume it is the most difficult to find.

Merry Christmas David, and to All on the Forum. I hope everyone get what they want for Christmas.

The fifth coin looks like some of the silver I stored in pvc album pockets for nearly 40 years (not any more, I should add!), with a blue/green deposit caused by 'sweating'. It could just be the photos though. Accum, A quick dip in carbon Tet. will remove the green residue caused by polyvinyl sweating. Wear gloves though, it does not burn, but does absorb in the skin! If you can get hold of any. Wonderful solvent, but a no-no under H&S regs. It's fair to say that it's easier to list what it doesn't do. Carbon Tet was originally used as a parts cleaner here in the Industrial Factories, but is still available as a "coin solvent" here in the U.S., though there are warnings from the EPA about absobtion in the skin. It is risky stuff....

The fifth coin looks like some of the silver I stored in pvc album pockets for nearly 40 years (not any more, I should add!), with a blue/green deposit caused by 'sweating'. It could just be the photos though. Accum, A quick dip in carbon Tet. will remove the green residue caused by polyvinyl sweating. Wear gloves though, it does not burn, but does absorb in the skin!

You're very kind, Danz, though several others on here could put my collection to shame! You are right Danz, Accum's collecion is top drawer. But like Accum's response, there is always someone who can "one up" a collection, it seems. When I was visiting Great Britain this Fall, I stopped by Michael Gouby's shop, and some of the coins he showed me, would really make you dizzy with envy, especially the 1849, and 1863 Open 3 Pennies, both uncirculated! It was quite a treat!

The trouble is, the market for some of the most obscure and trivial varieties is so small that how could you get a realistic value? Especially if one of the collectors has much more money than sense like the person who bought that 1863 'narrow 3' penny. Others - such as the two kinds of 1905 penny, 1937 penny, 1928 halfcrown, and several others - where the two varieties occur in roughly equal quantities, aren't worth listing as each variety would have the same value. It's a minefield. Chris already shows the 1905, 1937, etc with just an asterick (*), explaining that both types generally have equal value. That's a pretty good way of dealing with minor variations on some coins, while still listing thay are differant varieties.

As for the date widths, I think Michael Gouby has a good explaination of what is considered important, and what (currently) is not. I think the market will decide what should, and should not, be placed in a coin reference. "Some collectors have started collecting or recording variations in date widths. I do not consider the great majority of these variations as being of significant importance or rarity above the norm. Some, like the 1889 narrow date, do eventually achieve a rarity status and command a premium over the norm. Only time will tell which of the others do ! I shall list and scan some of the variations that pass through my hands." I think the 1877 Narrow Date has made the cut! Ha,Ha!

I kind of agree with you on many of the micro varieities, but I think the O'NE should be included. It has been in Sprink for a long time, and has a value of 100-1500 pounds!

Nice coin Benny!

I think this auction is being held during the "New York International Coin Fair" at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Midtown, New York City. That is the premier show here in the USA for World coins, so you are correct that the bidding will be very active. I have gone to the NYICF the last three years, but am attending the Florida United NUmismatic Expo this year, which is held on the same dates. You always freeze to death in NYC this time of year, so it will be nice to exchange that for 75 degree weather in Florida. Good luck with your bids!

I just ordered my copy thru your link!

Per the "Shotgun" weddings....The first child can come anytme, after that they take 9 months each! LOL!

Geordie, Thanks for the lead, that is a great site! Are we thinking MyHeritage is better than My Ancestry? Trouble is, I don't know what I want from a site?I have Ancestry.com and I like it, and it is easy to use, and has a extremely large database. Myheritage is also easy to use, and is free, which I like also. Ancestry is based in the USA, while MyHeritge is UK based, so both have a advantage for the user.

Geordie, Thanks for the lead, that is a great site!

It does look that way LOL, but I think it is just the reflection of the rock to the right of the lighthouse, that makes the sea look like it is going uphill from left to right!

Hoping isn't a very sensible way forward. Buy what you can see.Oh I haven't bought it, but for £40 for the CC mint one would be a stealHere's a CC for you Sam lovely coin thanks If that was a 1889-CC instead of a 1889-P that was shown...you would be looking at a $1500 coin (minus the scratches of course).....The 1889-CC is one of the really tough CC coins!

The dollar is Very Fine (minus the scratches). If the scratches are on the plastic container, and not the coin...then VF! The scratches will downgrade the dollar to Bullion Value, which is about $15-16.00. The reverse of the coin is about average for a VF coin!

The camera lightened the coin up somewhat. The coin is really slightly darker than the pciture. Thanks to all for the comments.

Here is a new one for me this week! A 1864 Crosslet 4 Penny. Probably Very Fine Condition...

Well it is right now, but if Obama has his way we may join the VAT Club! LOL! BTW Dave, who awarded you the new Membership moniker (above your avaitar)...Chris? Just kidding! Ha,Ha!

Interesting observation about the Ladies Neil. Not only do more Ladies seem to be interested in the Hobby...but at large coin shows here in the U.S. I've noticed a increase in Lady Dealers!

I once went out with an American Lady from Edinburgh Indiana, she's now a Major in the Army (seriously) So Scottish-American Relations are just dandy my friends.I Shall not say anymore on the rest Oh and happy thanksgiving to my American friends ****************************************************************************************************** Azda, Edinburg, Indiana is about 30 miles South of Indianapolis, where I live. There is a small Army Base there, where troops are prepped for overseas duty. Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes. Regards, Bob Welcome Bob, and yes she's at Attabury Yes that's the place, Camp Atterbury...

I once went out with an American Lady from Edinburgh Indiana, she's now a Major in the Army (seriously) So Scottish-American Relations are just dandy my friends.I Shall not say anymore on the rest Oh and happy thanksgiving to my American friends ****************************************************************************************************** Azda, Edinburg, Indiana is about 30 miles South of Indianapolis, where I live. There is a small Army Base there, where troops are prepped for overseas duty. Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes. Regards, Bob

I am certainly not an Obama fan, but to be truthful the"saving" of the Turkeys by a U.S. President has been done annually ever since I can remember, and that goes back to FDR! Obama is just continuing the tradition. Ha,Ha! I have even heard some Americans refer to Obama as a turkey! LOL! They live in Montana, and practice rifle drill every morning at dawn before crawling back into their nucular bunkers, say the 7 Commandments to JEEzussss, before continuing to plot the overthrow of Big Government, right? (No stereotypes please, we're British ) Could be Peck, but to be honest, Montana is one of the few states I have never visited, so I can't be sure! LOL!

I am certainly not an Obama fan, but to be truthful the"saving" of the Turkeys by a U.S. President has been done annually ever since I can remember, and that goes back to FDR! Obama is just continuing the tradition. Ha,Ha! I have even heard some Americans refer to Obama as a turkey! LOL!