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Was trawling ebay and came accross this seller from China, now don't get me wrong, maybe i'm just paranoid about all these Chinese fakes that are doing the rounds, but would be interested in some of the older hands of the forums opinions on some of his coins http://cgi.ebay.com/Florin-1899-AEF-Scarce-NR-/310217802273?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483a6c0221 Ok, so what am more paranoid about if these are fakes, is the fact there is a few British sellers buying of this guy, 1 of note, i've seen before and someone quoted him selling junk most of the time anyway but the problem could now be is that he's gonna sell these of as originals. Take a look at the Chinese sellers feedback and you'll see who i mean. As i said, maybe i'm just paranoid.

Nice pad but unfortunately not worth sheeeeeeeeet

And we look forward to seeing your coins

Hi Rob and welcome to the forum and to coin collecting as a whole. Many people here can help you with many questions, its better to ask the questions rather than not, as a relatively newcomer myself i've found lots of help from the people here. You should never think that asking to many questions is a wrong thing, and ask as many as it needs to help you. Yes you can post pictures here up to 150kb max, it does also help with grading and determining what your coins are, i personally upload hi grade pics, each 150kb for OBV and REV, i just make 2 posts for each side. As for books, well there are many different ones out there, Spink being the market leader i would say, the owner of this site has allso written a coin book, very helpful to, there's also coin yearbook, but i won't confuse you with them all, i would suggest to start with the New Spink book 2010 if you have a lot of various different coins. I hope thats helped a little to start you off down the road of collecting and i hope to see some of your pictures soon Azda

This is what am talking about Leviathan, this guy is a dealer and the very person we as buyers we are supposed to trust, so if we start to distrust dealers, then what?

The problem being is that he also ups its grade as well. Another example.................................. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280498050311 <<<< bought by his wife Selling now cleaned, you can still see the stain in the crown http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1883-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-FLORIN-EF-/230470768068?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item35a920d5c4

Personally i'd call it stealing, this guy is a dealer, someone for people like us that we are supposed to trust. I emailed one guy who had bought the coin i had sold to his alias, he replied to me today and said he had spoken with him and was gonna give him a full refund. I wonder now if he'll stop or continue his crappy practise.

1g does sound a lot of underweight for such a small coin unless there was a lot of clipping

hi kris yours looks to be one of two coins its def henry VII but looks more to be the half groat due to the spacing between the neck and head nice coin though ive just recieved another coin today an edward IV ight coinage groat minted in norwich which i can see know real deal. i am to believe is not a common issue to come by. now i have these two coins and i am 100% sure that the london one i have above is dodgy ive had that feeing since first handling the coin, it just didnt seem right Why not take it to your local dealer Chris and get his opinion before sending it back

Rim............Hope they help next time you buy.

REV.......I've made the pix big enough so you can see all the detail

Hi Kris, here are 3 pix of my Spanish 8 Reales Peru Lima Mint, it might help next time you see one. OBV first then REV then rim

Here's the dipped version of a coin his wife bought from me, she paid 255 for it and he sold it for 321. His text states EF, when it left my hands it was only a good VF http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230462143381

He gets away with it due to the fact no one knows what he's doing, but someone one day will buy his coin and leave him a negative for it being dipped, maybe they should add his wifes ebay number that she bought the coin from to so that people can see what he's doing. Maybe we should chip in a few quid each and purchase one of his mickey mousers.

Mannnnnn.............Here's another he's bought and is now selling on his ebay, of course it has been dipped, but check out the difference in grades and prices now after dipping. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390179438959 <<<<<<<<<< bought for 56 pounds http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1856-VICTORIA-GOTHIC-FLORIN-EXT-RARE-NEAR-UNC-/330428678067?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item4cef157fb3 now at 155 pounds with 5hrs to go Check the difference in grades, amazing.

Most of the coins he sells Peckris is in some way or another CRSIP RARE blah blah blah. As i said, i'm curious where the halfcrown will end up, i think it ends today

He does get some rarities tho Gary, he has a gilt proof penny up right now. Don't agree with this dipping thing though, i'm curious if he makes any money on the one i've listed here. I bet his wife shill bids for him to.

Well that guy is quite a respected seller, so it seems he buys from a different name and sells on his own name, but that coin looks a little cleaner than when he bought it. How did i find this out, well, he bought 2 coins from me under his alias, his address and the alias address both were one and the same, just stumbled across it today

I wonder if he'll get his money back on this coin he bought and is now selling http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200461725886 <<<<<< the one he bought for 365 pounds http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1879-VICTORIA-YOUNG-HEAD-HALFCROWN-EXT-RARE-AU-/230468642543?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item35a90066ef <<<< and the same coin he's selling Looks a little cleaner than before though

Slabs............a topic close to 400s heart. If you are offering the Marsh book 400 i would'nt mind it

Lol, Peckris, you made me smile then, my girlfriend says the same thing, she is German though and has an excuse, i always correct her with the same word and also with SAVE instead of SAFE.

Not so far off the correct weight then, making things harder

1949threepence, it seems we have a thread starting upon the subject

400, that was some time ago, my apologies, but i have forgotten.Alzheimers possibly :-)I am just curious what other people would do with them, personally, if it's junk i will bin them, dependant on where its came from, it it was from ebay, then i'd ask for my money back, then leave a negative feedback stating it was a fake, if like i have said, it was from a friend, then i'd throw it in the bin, simples......I don't have any personally, or at least i hope i don't, i tend to buy from dealers and the odd numpty now and again who thinks their coin is a UNC when clearly it isn't

Chris, could we rename this topic as modern fakes or something so people can find it and perhaps post their images?