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You could be persuaded to identify that as VicOH rev C from 1897! so if we call that Cb:- Freeman and Gouby die identification now needs a complete rewriteAre you saying that 1922 is known with the M.E. and with TWO different reverses? I thought there was only one 1922 ME in existence? On the picture above, is the reverse Cb shown with a small area beyond the rim included on the left hand side? If so, and ignoring that extra bit, I'm thinking that reverse Cb looks rather like the 1897 High Tide reverse - has anyone made a comparison between the two? All I've done is to add in the info Freeman gave in the article posted above, plus Bernie's posting yesterday As I'm not likely to get the opportunity to examine any of these in hand - my listing is an Aunt Sally for anyone with more knowledge to knock down!

You could be persuaded to identify that as VicOH rev C from 1897! so if we call that Cb:- Freeman and Gouby die identification now needs a complete rewriteBernies examples added in red

You could be persuaded to identify that as VicOH rev C from 1897! so if we call that Cb:- Freeman and Gouby die identification now needs a complete rewrite

the GV E Africa 10 cents is the scarce one for 1936 1936 GV 500,000 1936 E8 2,000,000 1936H E8 2,500,000 1936KN E8 2,500,000

You could be persuaded to identify that as VicOH rev C from 1897!

not a great fan of altered/engraved coins - got to admire the skill on this one

Scan doesn't really show how black this ugly 1863 is - i only keep it 'cos I got in change as a kid which started me penny collecting probably spent many years under the floorboards, before having a brief circulation in the mid 1960s

The date numerals seem to have worn faster than the die and were frequently repunched - sometimes sloppily You can find pennies of the 1860s where one or more of the date figures are almost missing

This one is relatively high grade for the type, they and coppers dating back to Louis XV circulated till 1856 These 5 centimes and the decimes constitute an incredibly complex series, with overdates galore plus overstrikes of the Mint letters and overstrikes of engravers marks in multiple combinations - many unknown in better than Fine grade. This one is very common - F.129/13 An 7/5 Coq/Corne d'abondance

Not a new coin, but an exciting new find A French 5 centime piece L'An 5 A (1796 Paris) CINQ over CNIQ - to date only 1 known (see footnote to F115.2 Le Franc 10 {2014}) - I've sent a photo to the editors - you never know it might be in next year's catalogue

This one looks interesting & more info This one's 5MP, and looks sturdier than the one we've been discussing above

Thanks, lots to think about there

I think it's BP 1922 A also (? BP 1922 AA) - is it accidental or part of the exeriments? who knows?

date widths we've done ad nauseum; grained edges are in Freeman's original penny monograph but later discounted by scanning electron microscopy studies. But the 1897 high sea pennies and halfpennies are interesting, very rare in the penny but common in the halfpenny (not sure about farthings)

I like that! Now please explain the one year 1897 reverses!

, maybe they did, but none escaped or any that did were not noticed. When you and I were checking 5/- bags of copper in the late 60's, most GV halfpennies were reduced to washers.

Yes! sticky fingers - corrected version -

Mintage for the 1932 proof 6d is just 12, according to both Remick & Krause Currency issue mintage was 1,524,910

Having reread Freeman's article - I think a revised listing for George V pennies now looks something like This ignores proofs. off metal strikes and the 1922 trident dot

From memory (a talk by Rob I think) an edge lettering collar was invented by the French engraver Droz who introduced it to Boulton when he worked at the SOHO mint - that big 1792 2 sols I posted the other day in the Copper Coins thread has the edge inscription "DEPARTMENS DE PARIS. RHONE ET LOIRE. DU GARD. &" - Scanning edges - a project to try! Eeek! I seen to have acquired divinity with this post, a philosophic conundrum for self belief!

I've pinched these images from Acculator's site - as they are the same size with virtually identical illumination The rare 1922 reverse is NOT the same die as used in 1927

I've just looked at Accumulator's pictures on his site - I can't see any pointing differences but no way his 1922 is the same die as his 1927 on the right - look at Brittania's hand and the ball atop the trident shaft. Bob's coin looks to be the same die as Accumulator's [url=http://s593.photobucket.com/user/microtome/media/hands.jpg.html][ /URL] So the question remains - which die was used for F192B and F196A?

Odd that Freeman describes the 1922 "rev C" with the long border teeth the same as the 1927 "rev C" considering the trouble he took to identify miniscule differences in the George VI ship halfpenny reverses What lennth are the teeth in the 1926, his F196A? Are there any legend/bead pointing differences?

Yes, the few I have all look so dreadful, I wouldn't want to share Old hammered copper is much easier

Agreed! I use an Epson DX4400 Scanner/printer at 2400 dpi, Photoscape 3.6.5 for round cropping and rotation, plus Photoshop CS 8.0 for final presentation