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Proves the point perfectly Jon.

Thanks Ian. Even on my 1797's (10 & 11 leaves), there are noticeable ship differences - one having a much longer topsail, for example. I must say I think it takes great patience, dedication and obviously time to differentiate all the various ship types. But worthwhile as I'd bet a few would specialise in such a type collection, once known. Talking about the 11th leaf, I have noticed how many are wrongly attributed as having 11 leaves, including mistakes by LCA. I honestly believe some just don't know what the difference is.

Ian, Have you - out of interest - ever attempted to find out the number of ship variations on the 1797 penny? I understand there are possibly about 20 - maybe more.

Quite by chance when searching for something else, I've found some old articles relating to Bramah, which some may find of interest. Listener Article part 1 Listener Article part 2 Obituary (from 1942)

Absolute dream of a coin.

For convenience, here is the link to Auction 103. The 1882 No H is Lot No 175. I'll also be very interested to see what lot 174's hammer price is. This is a really nice 1860/59. Was unable to edit my previous post. Maybe a hang back of yesterday's issues.

Thanks Jerry - was trying to determine whether it was the Christopher Comber collection or Auction 49 on the St James site, and it was actually auction 103 on the Baldwin's site all along !!!

True - plus the fact there are several facebook groups. In essence they seem to consist of almost absolute beginners, and others with very little experience. Plus a few really experienced old hands like the Derek Allens, Martin Platts and Tony Crockers of this world, who offer sound guidance. There's also a few amateurish low level auction/trading sites, and those that double up as both. The problem with facebook is retrieving old information, or knowing that it even exists. Threads seem to vanish with alarming rapidity, and nothing is retained in any semblance of chronological order. In that sense a forum is much more user friendly - look at the number of times on here that threads, even well over 10 years old, are rooted out and re-posted on/used as a reference tool. Imagine trying to find something on facebook that you vaguely recall from all that time ago. There isn't even a subject line to refer to.

Hi Blake - can you point me in the right direction. I've tried search as per the screenshot below. Put in 1882 and clicked "submit", but nothing happens. Thanks.

Look out girls........

Well two of them look reasonably pleased with the idea......

Yep, absolutely. RIP David Roberts-Jones 1945 - 2021. He hadn't posted on here for quite some time, but was still posting on facebook up till quite recently. In addition to his interest in coins, David had a passion for politics, and was a strong Lib Dem supporter/activist. Unfailingly pleasant and polite to all. As you say Blake, he will be missed. Sincere condolences to his (many) friends and family.

Thanks. I might get it, or something similar. But I was quite interested to see if anyone on here had any first hand knowledge/experience. It appears not.

Yeah, why not. My mistake to attribute the sale to Pete, so you can have it instead Blake.

Twice before I've called LCA about an unsold lot the day after, only to find that someone has already been on to buy it. So that suggests there are other interested parties post auction and you therefore need to look lively asap after the results are posted, in order to secure any unsold lots you might be interested in. Another reason punters may not bid pre auction, is that they assume a given coin will go for much more than they can afford. But for whatever reason it has attracted no interest, nor does it in the room on the day. The only one of yours that I nearly went for (pre auction) at LCA was the 192A you sold in September 2019. But in the end, other things took my eye.

It's just the way I do it. ETA: I've usually already made pre auction bids on other lots, and my success or otherwise with them dictates whether I've got any spare money left over for unsold lots.

Pre - auction I always make a note of the lots I'm interested in - either direct from the website, or better yet from the catalogue if you get it. Then when the results are posted if they don't include a lot number you noted as of interest, you can then call LCA and they'll let it got at the lower estimate, plus juice. You have to be quick though and keep a sharp lookout for when the results are posted, as others have the same idea as you, and you might miss out. But you can potentially bag a great bargain.

I must take a look. Although I never find their site the easiest to navigate.

Well I'm quite risk averse, so no I won't dabble unless it goes a lot more mainstream and reliably safe. Really my interest was more general. How it actually works.

Delighted to have bought this slabbed 1806 copper proof - KP31, Peck 1327. It didn't sell at the recent LCA, so got it post auction at the lower reserve amount. Originally Lot No 1803.

Very pleased to have won this 1848/7 at the recent DNW auction (lot 302). There are 3 main types of 8/7, the first is where the downward 45 degree stroke of the 7 intersects the lower loop of the 8 on the left hand side. The second is the same dissecting the lower loop of the eight through the centre, and the third is the same where it dissects the lower loop of the 8 on the right hand side. It is this third type (unrecorded by Bramah) that is by far the scarcest of the three. The first two images are mine. The last one was taken from the DNW site as their magnification facility is outstandingly good, enabling you to confirm detail that leaves you guessing on other websites.

Pete, that was one I had to fight for. But for this particular specimen, it was well worth it in my opinion. I'd imagine the other bidder had the same thoughts as me.

One great thing about DNW is the speed at which they operate. Invoice for won lots posted on website a few hours after winning them. Despatched today - and the thing that I really do like is that they provide you with the tracking number. Surprising just how many don't bother. I suppose it's the quality you pay for with that high premium.

A little while back LCA offered two VIGTORIA'S, and I did toy with the idea of going for one. But in truth they were so poor, I decided not to bother.

Possibly in some areas, but not especially pronounced. I had to fight for the two that I got. I'm just pleased I was working from home and so was able to log out of work PC for 15 minutes, and join the live auction. If I'd relied on my nominal pre auction bids, I'd have been blown out of the water. I note that of the 796 offered today, only 28 did not sell, so that's a sale rate of 96.5%, which seems good.