VickySilver

I know this sale has served quite a depressive effect on my collecting (ok, well of the nicer bits)....I guess there won't be an upgrade of my 1854 florin for a good long while!

Wow, the 1863 florin went at 14k! I think I want to mount an expiditionary and get mine taken by my ex-wife!

And how, pray tell, would a dealer buy any of these and sell them at a profit? Or are they all leaving for Japan?

Absolutely, I just find I don't want to add coins at these outrageous prices and am glad I went out and splurged some years ago. The 1849 LD was a perfect example as it used to be a scarce but affordable at the GEF level. New playing field for the better bits so we have to get used to it if we are going to "play".

Wow, 1841 halfcrown at DNW went for 4400! Glad I have mine; the 1849 LD which I could obviously NOT see went 1450 (should have upgraded when I had the chance!). Tomorrow may be a blood bath as Coppers alludes....

Yikes, that is a bit ugly there...I agree with the assessment that this coin will come up for "auction" at LCA before too long & think it showed top price already at 3k for that specimen. Good job Nick on pointing out the packaging - photographs pretty well but I have not seen it in person & somehow think I've seen it before at another venue. Is there a 26ME that is worth 5k? Shame about the grading services which seem to really miss the hammered and early milled especially; I think the hammered may be due to "technical grading" wherein the coin left the dies and may not have been touched much but was a bit raggy of a strike and original fabric as an example. I have a slabbed 1849 shilling by PCGS in "62" which is nearly pristine but was docked for micro polishing lines- it was but these were in RELIEF as it was polishing of the die as opposed to the finished coin. So maybe it works both ways. I suspect that despite all the talk of equity that the consignor may also have a bit of influence on ultimate grades. I think it a bit of a conflict that the grader, either CGS or David Hall of PCGS sells coins that they grade or have graded.

As Nick says, a nice '53 6d to be sure, though sadly not a proof. Always have to watch the rub as well.... Must say, better than I've ever done at a show just looking through stock. Nice job!

Bit of a premium there though! Britannias can be bought for 5 quid over spot silver I seem to recall...

I have weights listed variously for Jamaica penny as 9 gm and 9.34 gms. so not sure if that is the source for this Victorian penny that is worn (? ~10 gm. starting weight??)

What 9.6 gm CuNi coins were being struck by the Royal Mint in 1901? Halfcrowns of post 1946 date should be about 14.1 gm +/-....

Oops, I think that is the one I was talking about Bernie...

I don't know about the estimate. It is a penny, but the Nicholson CuNI 1920 halfpenny struck to a specimen standard with the countermarked "N" sold for 800 quid. I purchased a 1922 CuNi penny of the Royal Mint (obv. and rev. unfortunately of 1922 for about 300-350 by memory) about 3-4 years ago.

Yes, good point, but it was the second high bid that determined the sale price - and I think (s)he and I knew the fair "collector price", and I was prepared to go even a bit higher. When the estimate is closer to true value of the coin, it does not prompt me to still bid multiples of the HIGHER price. Overall, I think the lower estimates catch interest initially and make a bidder feel like he's going to come through with a win at a relatively higher percentage price. I know as the relative estimate rises - and I have seen this on occasion as well - that my bids are much closer to estimate and I take the loss rather than go very high.

I know that I have bid as much as FIVE TIMES estimate to secure choice and rare bits....Took more than just me to do it however! I try to get them low, but really in a topline London auction of a rare coin, do any really believe there are low priced bargains to be had?

I have seen more than even quite a few with"Late Mint Stage Preparation Damage"...Most have these stigmata.

Not much for me, I really think not.

I wouldn't say I have seen LOTS of circulated '35s and '37s, but a few...

I don't recall any accounts of these Wreaths circulating. What was to be bought with a crown or why would a non-collector want one in the first place?I have collected these for nearly 20 years, and though have not purchased any for greater than 10 have seen in the main EF specimens that were likely clanking around in tellers drawers. A few gVF specimens with precious few at the F level, and a few "pocket pieces" every now and then. My own opinion is that they rarely circulated, were legal tender obviously, much as Nick says...

I might have a picture of it as I recall I took one of that coin as well as an 1863 proof farthing (no dot). Easier for me to email these than to post them for some reason.

Ah yes, and the 1926ME penny as well as a topnotch 1919KN with full strike or a 1922 Rev. 1927 (and all the scarcer iterations of that date) in, say, mint red uncirculated...Or marginally the 1934 Wreath?

Are the choices limited to farthings? If so, I am guilty as well... Like maybe the '93 Jub. 6d in high grade, etc.?

Yes, I have seen it. Was originally sold in an SNC circular about 10 years ago...I would think it would go 1250 or above if it came up for sale.

How about a proof 1863 or proof 1869 farthing - these are RARE!

Wonder if that was the Spink coin?

Just thought I would resurrect this thread. I DO like this denomination, but have had absolutely no success in confirming the 1854 & am inclined to think it does not exist after conversations with many milled predecimal experts. Interesting that the 1862 half sov evidently went unnoticed until 1979...Kind of like some of the new species that show up now and then in the natural world (oh please don't mention the "Megalodon" that sank the ship off South Africa in April of this year!).