VickySilver

Have to use care, some very nice sans slab and others not so much. Same for slabs as pictures not always showing how it looks in hand...

Very diplomatic on the commentary there Paddy. I concur, please do look at other commentary on the dealer mentioned.

Hmm, that last bit made it sound as though you might be looking for the silver as people not lining up for dross. Here's to hoping there are some nice bits hidden in there...

Yours a good buy, but I find the quality and price of this date to be all over. The TPGs will sometimes give technical grades because there is not wear and perhaps good lustre but not be well struck and overall not attractive. Pick and choose carefully...

Hmm, I don't find the eBay bargains or even the quality that I did some years ago. But this thread came off the rails IMO. The question is: how, if at all, is the current virus situation going to affect the coin market? And in fact, my guess is that there is a bit of the ostrich head in the sand bit until the reality sets in. In other words, the tale is yet to be told but without being a stick in the mud, this IS going to have affect eventually and the question is when?

Well, the US has reported 26 million unemployed adults, and the numbers may be higher....I think this is a marker of economic pressure that will start to put negative pressure on at least the bottom to middle ground in the collector markets, including coins. This economy reminds me of a modern ship hitting a rock or hit by a torpedo - the compartments affected are completely flooded out, but containment doors hold even the compartments adjacent dry and unaffected until pressure builds and blows through a door, and then that compartment is flooded, etc. Eventually the ship begins to list and even sink....Hopefully the economy does not go the latter.

But when people lose the wherewithall to purchase things like coins, and especially residential space prices will come down because demand at unsustainable levels will fall away = if money is not there in peoples' hands to buy, there will be a slump in demand of whatever good there may be at higher price points.

Not only that, and the "decider" in my book are the swirling lines covering fields and Vick on the obverse with an unnatural shininess that has since lightly toned over on both the fields and device, especially inside the lettering - this is the type of thing seen with a wipe by a cloth. This is also seen to a lesser extent on the reverse as well. Shininess or softness to the lions is something to look for but I have seen numerous examples where the lions' snouts have been softly struck - so both are possible, soft strike and/or wear. In the States, they used to call these coins "sliders", GEF (or AU) coins that had been wiped or lightly cleaned. In all likelihood and despite this a pleasant -appearing coin the TPGs would reject for cleaning.

I really like the obverse strike and also think the edge marks are quite tolerable, don't know if you want to try your hand at judicious acetone on the black marks. I know someone that braved Jeweluster diluted dip on a matte proof G6 crown - yikes! But it came out quite well.

That is probably fair - the 63. Very hard to see if there are hairlines but the coin looks original and uncleaned, so might even reach a 64.

I think they might find that results will be improved by going on-line. They have made me cringe at times, and have had similar experiences although I've had a few winners.

I will chime in with an "agree" as well. The rim seems to indicate that prior to the cleaning that it may have been very close to uncirculated. I always try to appreciate this characteristic also on many coins & esp. on eBay, etc.

This is similar to the design on the mint-issued silver 1977 Queen's commem medal - very large in format.....

And neither do I. Interestingly though if an individual is less active their pulmonary and cardio status would be decreased which might put them secondarily at a disadvantage.

Yes, I have seen their census and the moderator refused to answer my very pleasantly stated question in a less than pleasant fashion. I have seen only the single other MS64 that is part of the Jamaica penny census #1 set. I am a bit dubious as the 1882 H is represented by only a single coin - this type (with the H) is decidedly more common and has been published as that. Frankly I would guess that the mintage for the year total or that for 1882 H might be the 48,000 you stated. Ford, amongst others was unaware of the coin in currency form. My recall is that the Diana collection did NOT have one. I am inclined to believe that the 1882 "no H" would be substantially less. If you do find a mint state 1882 "no H" my recommendation would be to hold on to it. If you find either of the 64s or the 66 for sale at a semi-sensible price, do let me know.

No word for you here but mostly collect currency Vick silver. I know how frustrating it is to track down specimens such as this Bon chance!

Absolutely! PCGS would not slab this and I had it in a 2x2 before, so at least adequately protected. I still want the other two slabbed. I got the copper version of this for 18 USD, and it is beautiful (well, the reverse anyway).

OK, funnies. I guess I have to confess that even though I love Vicky silver (surprise!), I just don't get worked up over varietals other than the Gothic florin overdates like 1852/1, 1874/3 and the 1881 "xxri". But with this Corona virus maybe I'll have a look this evening....

They may have just been having a bit of fun. This coin is c. 2000 struck by INA and sold in the Spink Patina Sale 2001.

I think the previously mentioned 1945 3d may be an example of a top end rarity suffering from the current climate/disease state. I will also state that it definitely has affected my purchasing of generally nicer if not top coins. I used to not really think about it and go ahead and buy many coins, but that it is certainly not the case now. A few others have mentioned similar to me. This whole thing may hit us in waves and not a general surge, possibly with hard to predict affects. I can't see but how gold at least (in bullion and coin form) will do alright. This whole two trillion dollar stimulus package in the USA - whatever that really means - will be inflationary, possibly "stagflationary" times revisited . That will possibly serve to further bifurcate the market and somewhat bury coins on the lower end of the scale.

I have wondered at many of the auction prices - almost as though reality has not yet hit. I think the story is yet to be told.

In the year since this was posted I have seen no other decent 1882 Jamaica "no H" pennies. I think this one may be pretty rare.

Nope, sure wish I could have managed! I wonder if we'll find out where it went.

Even so, there was a day that this coin would have been affordable to the collector of reasonable means. But 50k even if short of what it might have brought or likely will bring if resold post economic recovery is still quite a lot of money. At least this one has claims as opposed to those infernal proof Vicky 5 sovs. which IMO are poseurs as far as collector coins.