VickySilver

Uh, may I have an 1839 Proof Crown at that price (360 pounds)?

Indeed, I will try to post a picture tomorrow of what may actually be an 1847/6 groat that looks different than my two 1847/8 coins. I think there may also be the 1848/7 as I have some that appear that way to me. I have a feeling that this consignor got many of these en bloc and was soLd many of these as currency. Note that Maundy come as proof like; satin, currency-appearing and probable proofs just to confuse even more.

I had another look. IMHO I would have to call both proof based on fields and type of toning especially on the first, and the way the devices and rim are struck. Also semi condemned as Maundy would likely be the 3 pence coins of the dates 1847, 1848, 1852 and several others. These IMO have again the fields and strike presentation of Maundy - and this would be again the strike and fields. the 1847/6 groat looks nice but still stuck on iPad so can’t see for sure if the under digit is 6 or 8. Also I need a better look at the 1853 3d, which in currency and not Maundy is rather scarce. I will look again tomorrow at these.

Hard to tell on this date as so few were struck - even currency many times are quite prooflike. ESC/Bull really IMHO falls apart and gives R2 rating for the 1853/2. This in currency and even proof is a rare coin. Proofs come with plain and milled edges as well. Will look later on laptop.

In the US, occasionally, as many times they have nought & a bit like #3 on the list with vastly less stock though: stacksbowers.com goldbergcoins.com

Ah, wish I had an extra....Part of the set and so am keeping it together until my wheels fall off. LOL

Better get ready to cut some big checks for a couple. I have only the matte, and will have to check the type and an exceptional 2 + A proof that was as stated graded Proof 67* Red Cameo. The latter is not considered VIP Record, but picked it out based on its superior appearance and not sure I would exclude it despite the type. I have to say it swayed me strongly and got it along with a wonderful proof halfpenny of same date that graded similarly.

Uh, yes that would be correct. However, if it puts money in your pocket then I guess sometimes you sell out. Circumstances dictated and I sold a nicer coin through Stacks about 4 years ago and indeed got the 105%, and I had it slabbed myself (whereas I should have had them do it as Rob suggests). Actually it is the full story and I have no connections to any of these US companies although when I did have more money in my pocket got on well with some of the Brit principles; interestingly and despite this I some years ago sold through Spink a few and was very disappointed.

Yikes! PLEASE do not let that happen.

And yet VASTLY better than the horrific health care system we have in the US. I give them much Credit as Peck says.

Indeed. This is why even though I do not plan imminent sale, I so strongly have to consider Heritage from a pure monetary standpoint - absolutely ridiculous prices seem to be fetched although some of the European auctions are seeming to match them these days on many higher priced items. I think I had mentioned that both Heritage and Stacks-Bowers will offer the consignor 105% of the price fetched on items in the 5k USD and up category.

I really like the obverses when well struck - I will try to post mine later if I can use the cell phone to render a piss poor picture.....

Hmm, I will have to figure out what happened as this is an (IMHO) important phenomenon. OK, I figured it out - I got this through the NGC site and the auctions, already occurred were evidently in November of 2021 and May of 2022! Wow, can't believe I missed the dates......Still stand by my statements however.

Ah, yes. Would like to know your opinion, professor (well not copper but you'll excuse). auktionen.sincona.com

Okay, I know the usual caveats of holding coin in hand and quality of photos, blah, blah, blah. HOWEVER (and I know I may be biased but have NO axe to grind), I wonder what readers think of at least three of the coins on sale: - the two specimens of 1839 Halfcrown proof - the 1893 crown proof - the 1902 florin matte proof (in 67 no less) I was completely flabbergasted and am not necessarily a conspiracy person, but I can't help but believe that these grades are inflated. Now whether that is due to the source of the consignor, I can't say - but certainly must wonder. There were numerous other examples that IMHO had "blown up" grades as well.

I probably should have. Too late now, I think the toning has stabilized (hope)....

Well, sort of, but it was my fault I guess. I bought a truly fantastic 1926ME Penny from a Spink SNC in the year 2000. Coin listed as GEF, but in fact on delivery noted it to have booming red/orange lustre. I was a bit nervous about maintaining the surfaces in the humidity of the Washington DC area and so about 5-6 years later slabbed it - it still looked superb but after about 10 more years the lustre had given away to Red Brown surfaces. Still the nicest I have seen but my goodness how it hurt....BTW the coin is the PCGS "plate" coin for the date if you look at their "Pop Reports" (it graded MS65RB).

Thanks for that maestro. I strongly suspect such and only wished that when it came time to sell that I "knew somebody"...

Yes that appears so, although a series of one makes it hard to generalize. You may be on to something however.

The thing is, we have now all seen here and elsewhere (can you say "Heritage"?) where the TPG grade becomes all important, adding multiples and zeroes to the price fetched. In my series (late pre-decimal silver and to some extent copper) I have seen many cases with grades assigned, both high and low. Some are spot on, but the ones to either side of the curve are concerning. The other thing is that although I am not completely upset with them, I have really come to wonder if the submitter, despite all of their protests, can influence grades to some extent - at least on occasion.

I thought the same thing about the Churchill - a "66" ought to be a superior coin, and although better than most agree this one not better than a couple of the MS65 coins I have seen. There were a couple of other questionably graded coins IMHO.

YEs, was shocked at the Wiener prices and knowing they are not Royal Mint products - I wish they would announce that prior to each Wiener lot. I love Vicky silver (surprise) but NOT these...

I watched most of this and was a bit surprised by some of the price fetched in the later penny series for what I would call "grading prices" (ie, slabbed grades high with cameo, etc.) and also the value estimates given to later 20th C. crown proofs, varieties etc. They appeared IMHO unrealistic and as far as the crowns appear that a number did not sell. I did get the 1965 OMS brass (Jamaican penny flans?) as I have a pet collection of 1960s OMS strikes... Thoughts, anyone?

No edge issues. AU58 grade. This of course was from an era of great mint sport, so presume it also as such. I did buy a 1970 two-sided reverse penny that was an extremely well done fake however, and bought it bidding at major UK auction.

lol. yep