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Bronze & Copper Collector

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  1. Understood. I suppose it much would depend upon the degree of latitude allowed by the term 'about'. A Scenario: One could, under extreme conditions, be permitted to say a coin is about Uncirculated. The coin was removed directly from a mint set and accidentally dropped in the street. It was run over by a multitude of vehicles and flattened by a bulldozer. The coin NEVER circulated. Is the coin in question UNCIRCULATED with Post Mint Damage? Or is it ALMOST UNCIRCULATED inasmuch as it never truly circulated and indeed does display indications of not being in the condition it was in when it left the mint? I suppose that a TPG would probably simply entomb it as 'GENUINE with DAMAGE' and thereby be within its rights to collect its fee. I am somewhat reminded of the stamp collector that insisted upon his acquisitions being never hinged. He would then mount them in his collection WITH hinges and label them as 'UNHINGED BEFORE HINGING'. Apropos of misuse of the English language is the (mis)use and overuse of the term 'UNIQUE'. UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES UNIQUE EVENT etc.
  2. Just commenting and/or observing and nothing else. This can be applied to any similar instance as well. Firstly, this was a US TPG grading a non-US coin. Secondly, most of the criticising comes from collectors who specialize in their own countries coinage and have become accustomed to their native countries grading standards and terminology. Neither is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT nor ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. Aside from nuanced grading being somewhat subjective, it also signifies the importance of buying the coin and not the slab (or the number on said slab). Too many buyers (investors) purchase the number and NOT the coin. Collectors mostly will purchase the coin and not the number. This was given the LOWEST of the four AU grades. Those being AU-50, AU-53, AU-55, and AU-58. Additionally, although ANACS is highly rated and considered to be amongst the top three TPG's, it not as well regarded as PCGS or NGC. For what it's worth, I prefer my raw specimen to the stabbed example for eye appeal. Again though, this is strictly subjective to my thoughts. Truly, after all is said and done, "Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder".
  3. Can't upload more just yet I have one raw in my album (that is the specimen that I have posted) and another entombed by ANACS as AU50. I will eventually post the reverse of the raw specimen and also obverse and reverse of the ANACS example.
  4. That looks like an F-322a. Uneven berries... See attached image
  5. Amongst my pet peeves is one regarding those that say “I COULD care less”. I have always said “I COULDN’T care less” inasmuch as it, to me, is more logical. If you could care less, then it has at least some modicum of importance to you. If you couldn’t care less, then it is of the absolute least possible importance to you. Yet, for some reason, both are used interchangeably, and accepted as meaning the same thing.
  6. So, that's literally amazing, simply uniquely fantastic. Not wanting to split hairs (or hares, as the case may be). I also find certain egregious misuse of the language to be abhorrent, especially when presented by "professionals". What has happened to pride in presentation. I have seen errors in syntax, spelling, etc. in newspapers, on television, and other mainstream venues. Too many to list. Possibly it's merely that everyone has become an expert with that assumption supported by the use of spell checkers, grammar checkers, research done on the internet. After all, we are well aware that computers don't make mistakes, and that anything published on the internet should be taken as gospel.
  7. Of course that is best suited, if at all, to the original submitter. A buyer of an encapsulated coin would simply return it to the seller. Although one caveat to that scenario is that most sellers will NOT accept returns of encapsulated coins. Additionally, assuming the seller DID accept returns, they want it returned as sold, not regarded or removed from the slab. And then there is always that one TPG that when challenged about its variety determination, simply creates a new, nonexistent variety to accommodate their attribution.
  8. Aside from the possibility of the coin being downgraded, what compensation or benefit (term used loosely), does the owner/resubmitter/complainant receive? Are they compensated for the difference in value or do they just get a 'Thank you for catching our error' letter? It's a very vague statement on NGCs part, which I can understand from a business point of you...
  9. I reexamined the images and still think it is an obverse 11. To my eyes the spacing of the F:D: (letters and colon) match closer to obverse 11 than 12. Possibly slightly reminiscent of obverse 13 which I eliminated due to the lack of uneven berries. I also don't see the spacing as similar to obverse 13#, which, as I stated in the original post has the uprights of the R's in BRITT and REG pointing to a tooth. The coin in question has those 2 features pointing to spaces. Again however, images can be deceiving, although unintentionally, and the best assessment is done coin in hand.
  10. Based on the image, I don't believe it to be an obverse 13 which has uneven berries nor an obverse 13# where the upright of the R's point to a tooth. Comparison of the image of the coin in question with images of obverses 11 & 12 and the corresponding respective descriptors lead me to believe it is an obverse 11.
  11. Lol... I should "have" (not "of") read your post first..... You're absolutely correct. And I love your example. The only caveat to blaming people entirely is the dreaded spell checker. Text from his neighbor I am so sorry Bob. I've been riddled with guilt and I have to confess. I have been tapping your wife, day and night when you're not around. In fact, more than you. I do not get any at home, but that's no excuse. I can no longer live with the guilt and I hope you will accept my sincerest apology with my promise that it won't happen again. The man, anguished and betrayed, went into his bedroom, grabbed his gun, and without a word, shot his wife and killed her. A few moments later, a second text came in: Damn autocorrect! I meant "wifi", not "wife"
  12. For what it's worth, I have 1 8&c# and 2 7&c#
  13. Here you go... Now you can...
  14. How would you grade it? With a colonoscopy?? Assuming you can stomach it
  15. Let's not get too "Saucy"
  16. An 1827 in that condition would be welcomed in any collection.
  17. Sure looks like a 14 & N... Nice find and nicer than mine
  18. Some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth, other people ARE a silver spoon.
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