Bronze & Copper Collector

Just for the record, Satin (John Jerrams), in his reference guide, acknowledges 2 die pairings for the S-38 (F-38).

Thanks for pointing out where to find it...

The article in question...

I'll defer to those better acquainted with the series and its intricacies. However, although it defies conventional wisdom and logic, to me at least, it looks most like a 8/9. Much as Bramah states (in extrapolation), the most likely source of the line to the right between the upper and lower loops of the 8 would be an underlying 9. The knob within the lower loop on the left side, although potentially from either a 3 or a 5, could also be from a 9. The slight curved line within the upper loop lower right side, could be from a 3, but also and to me, more likely a 9. A strange conundrum to have an earlier year recut over a later year, yet not impossible. “When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”

So long as no one is barking up the wrong tree.....

Agreed. The only reason I mentioned the A was because, if I did not, someone else would almost be sure to mention the weak/missing crossbar, perhaps thinking that I had missed it. My primary enquiry was regarding whether or not the repunched R & I were previously known.

Hi Richard, Is yours also on an F-10? Asking because I don't see the repunched R or I.

Close-up inverted image

Close-up 02

Close-up 01

I'm not sure if this has been reported before. An 1860 F-10 penny with a repunched R & I in VICTORIA. Second punch on both is at a slight angle to the first. Additionally, in the image, it appears that the A in VICTORIA is an inverted V. I believe that to be a false impression of the photography. Quite candidly though, I can't really tell if the crossbar of the A is just crud, very faint, or actually missing. Pictures to follow. Your thoughts and opinions please.

Obverse

Good point with the date Richard. Mine has the lower 1 also

Coin 2, base of Victoria's bust

Coin 2, behind Victoria's head 

Coin 1, base of Victoria's bust

I am posting close-ups of the back of Victoria's head and of the base of her bust. On both specimens there is s distinct gap between the back of Victoria's head and the B of Britt, thereby precluding it being an obverse 6. Upon examining the base of Victoria's bust, I see no trace of LC WYON appearing in any position which would indicate either obverse 2, 3, or 4. Ergo, by eliminating the other obverses and by having the space where it would be without exhibiting the signature, I would determine both coins to be an obverse 5. Coin 1, behind Victoria's head

I remember that coin Richard. It was sold to me by Laurie Bamford, with the tickets from the Freeman auction as Michael Freemans F-27. THAT coin I'm sure of. In rexamining my posting, I'm now leaning toward the 2nd coin being more of a possibility of being a reverse F with the narrow gap. I'm a little more hesitant with the first coin now. At least I have an undisputable F-27 in my collection. I'm just re-reviewing coins I put aside a long time ago as possibles. Still learning, still searching for varieties, and still looking for an F-19 (among others)

Coin 2 obverse

Coin 2 reverse

Coin 1 obverse

I have 2 pennies that are extremely poor condition that I think might be reverse f's. Both obverse 5's. It might just be wishful thinking. Or simply going blurry eyed looking at minutiae on myriad coins. Any and all opinions appreciated. Thank you. Coin 1 reverse

That would essentially an overnight ice age...

I can't even imagine how much that would be if that was snow....

Obverse 5 does not always display the flaw in the forehead, however every obverse 5 I have seen has the scalloped top center leaf, whereas I have never seen that top center scalloped leaf on any other obverse than on an obverse 5. I would not necessarily use the die crack above the R as a determinant, however I believe that there is enough other evidence to confirm the obverse as an obverse 6.