Bronze & Copper Collector

Coin 1, base of Victoria's bust

I am posting close-ups of the back of Victoria's head and of the base of her bust. On both specimens there is s distinct gap between the back of Victoria's head and the B of Britt, thereby precluding it being an obverse 6. Upon examining the base of Victoria's bust, I see no trace of LC WYON appearing in any position which would indicate either obverse 2, 3, or 4. Ergo, by eliminating the other obverses and by having the space where it would be without exhibiting the signature, I would determine both coins to be an obverse 5. Coin 1, behind Victoria's head

I remember that coin Richard. It was sold to me by Laurie Bamford, with the tickets from the Freeman auction as Michael Freemans F-27. THAT coin I'm sure of. In rexamining my posting, I'm now leaning toward the 2nd coin being more of a possibility of being a reverse F with the narrow gap. I'm a little more hesitant with the first coin now. At least I have an undisputable F-27 in my collection. I'm just re-reviewing coins I put aside a long time ago as possibles. Still learning, still searching for varieties, and still looking for an F-19 (among others)

Coin 2 obverse

Coin 2 reverse

Coin 1 obverse

I have 2 pennies that are extremely poor condition that I think might be reverse f's. Both obverse 5's. It might just be wishful thinking. Or simply going blurry eyed looking at minutiae on myriad coins. Any and all opinions appreciated. Thank you. Coin 1 reverse

That would essentially an overnight ice age...

I can't even imagine how much that would be if that was snow....

Obverse 5 does not always display the flaw in the forehead, however every obverse 5 I have seen has the scalloped top center leaf, whereas I have never seen that top center scalloped leaf on any other obverse than on an obverse 5. I would not necessarily use the die crack above the R as a determinant, however I believe that there is enough other evidence to confirm the obverse as an obverse 6.

Hi Bob, Thanks for the input. Regarding the possibility of obverse 5, I dismissed that option because the coin in question does not have the scalloped top center leaf that I have seen on all obverse 5 specimens whether or not they have the indentation flaw on the forehead. Conversely, I have not seen that scalloped top center leaf on any other obverse other than an obverse 5. Ergo, in my opinion, it is not an obverse 5.

Understood... and Thanks again

Sorry, all. I'm unable to edit, but I did intend to say Obverse 6, and reverse F as previously discussed... Thank you

Thank you, I did mean 6 and F though... Obviously a reverse F, was looking for confirmation on Obverse. Thank you for that.

Another close-up

Close-up 2

Close up 1

Reverse

I'd like a second opinion on what I believe to be another 1861 6 & b half penny. Although low grade, I think it can be identified. It is NOT an obverse 7. It appears to have the die break above the R in REG as well as a bit more of the O in HONI SO. Additionally, although difficult to capture in an image, I think there is evidence of a double incuse line. All indicative of an obverse 6. All comments appreciated. Thank you

I have a recollection of somebody MANY YEARS ago having images of desirable collectibles (coins, stamps, cards, etc.) as part of the listing; and in a small font and a white or light font color (so as to be virtually unreadable although searchable) the information that " This Auction is for a Photograph of the item imaged and NOT for the item itself. A lot of money passed hands from a lot of disappointed, disillusioned, disgusted, and disgruntled buyers. Not sure what the end result was of all the complaints though CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!

Without any sort of examination, my gut reflex is fake.. No disrespect to the monarch, but I just don't like the way Queen Victoria looks.

I'm glad this wasn't a penny of the same date.

Reverse of the above coin

Please note that there are actually 2 cuds on the obverse, one much more obvious and catches the eye first.

An intriguing set of 3 identical 1967 obverse cud pennies. Interestingly/Coincidentally I missed out on 2 other matching examples on Ebay in the past.