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I have read through Michael Gouby's discussion of 1858 pennies. He seems to feel there are no 8 over 3. I may side with him. His reasoning seems sound. https://www.michael-coins.co.uk/cp_1858.htm I have looked at current ebay offerings of 8/3, none of them look promising as specimen. A couple examples (yes sellers make wild bs claims, nothing new) https://www.ebay.com/itm/177731430716 https://www.ebay.com/itm/336379281950 There was a graded example on Heritage, but I'm not convinced it is an 8/3, either. https://coins.ha.com/itm/great-britain/great-britain-victoria-penny-1858-3-/a/3015-24982.s Anyhow, has there been more supporting evidence come forward? Do you think there are examples, or do you agree with Michael?

In other words, roll the swab between fingers/thumb, don't wipe or rub. Use the technique in this video

Dansco 7070 is pretty much the standard. They have been back in print, so a lot more reasonable than a few years ago, but yes, still expensive. Are you against importing from the US? I'd think some eBay sellers are willing to ship there. Whitman made similar albums (not the cheap folder types), but I'm not sure they are made anymore. Littleton may have a ripoff of the Dansco, but I don't know if they do international post. You could probably get one of us in the US to relay it, but I imagine, if you're willing to ship from US, lots of sellers are willing. Found an old Whitman basic type set. Pretty sure they don't print it currently, but this is (I'm assuming) what you'd be looking for. I do not see any on eBay presently. When they pop up, some people do price gouging. https://www.mercari.com/us/item/m20076526228?sv=0

Have you heard of using gun bore cleaner? Not sure how accessible that is over there. I know it is part of the process used by a guy over here, for cleaning copper, bronze. But the rest he keeps pretty secret.

Sometimes wipes only show up in certain angles. A friend recently got a German piece from Künker in which pics and description say nothing of cleaning, but he shared a video where it's clear. Hairlines over both the fields and devices. He's pretty unhappy about it, obviously. It's the sort of thing that lead to TPGs becoming so popular here in the US. That and whizzing being so popular here for a time. Künker is a really big AH, with hammers averaging more than 2.5x of estimates.

No question, these are not the same coin.

I'll throw one in a shoe box with my 1933 and 1954 pennies

I found online two different 1920 pennies which suffer some major loss of detail in Britannia's face, breast, forward knee, they appear to be crumbling apart. The spear hand is very clear and defined, but just outside of the effigy. Both these pennies are mint state, and otherwise show nice detail.

Recent pickup Looks like my image isn't being attached Went in and deleted images that aren't showing up here, tried again several times. No joy.

Looks like it has delamination to me as well

That works, thank you.

Thank you, the old Chard's page is great. Strangely the wiki page has no table of the sort (might be localization differences). A friend actually recently sent me this link to Chard's too. Sort of adjacent info. https://www.chards.co.uk/guides/british-coin-denominations-from-roman-times-to-date/302

Does anyone have a handy chart or spreadsheet for British milled predecimal, showing all or many of the denominations, and their dimensions? I just mean smth w 2 or more columns, most esp Denom | Diameter Years and weight and thickness and metal content would be great, too. Thanks, Jonathan

It seems like we get overpriced culls or a small amount of massively overpriced better pieces. I still buy from UK, when feasible, it often works out better, as long as I consolidate several pieces in shipping. But not much at coin shows or shops for me to nose through.

Sadly my choices aren't so plentiful for the coins I like. Most everything here is Morgan dollars, or bullion.

I won: 1834 Bullhead shilling, lot 1292 1806 bronzed proof penny, (diff var than the 1806 proof I won in first auction), lot 1285 Beat out in 7 other lots

So what did you bag today?

Small upgrade to my 1961

Vaguely looks like a 3. Too uncertain, though.

Only Cope pieces they currently have are both gold, but I hadn't checked till recently.