Chris Perkins

I don't think I would ever buy one individually, but I have accumulated a collection of fakes, from William III, Anne, lots of George III, right up to on of EII. I have a lovely 6 Shillings Irish George III fake and I was offered £60.00 for it. Apart from that I wouldn't have a clue what to ask for them, or what they really are worth. I know that the GIII fake Halfpennies (1770's) are very popular in America, because they were even struck there, some of them. I've been able to sell fakes for more than the real thing in the past on eBay!

Yes I would have thought the chance of that happening would be pretty slim, although the die itself must be secured someway, so that is can be taken out and changed for the next date or when it gets worn. The rev die on your 2p must have come loose and rotated a bit. Interesting. Do you want to sell it?

Yes, if you listen to the broadcast is always was the truth. The public miss heard on a giant scale.

Could it read 'Pfenninge' (the plural) with an 'E' at the end. Perhaps the 'E' has worn off. From the 'A' mint mark (for Berlin) it's most likely Prussian, and should have a crowned coat of arms featuring an eagle on the back with '180 EINEN THALER' written around the top of it? This catalogue says it's worth EUR20.00 if in EF condition. If it's worn and around average, they are common, and not worth very much at all.

Way back in 1825 in Germany nobody knew how to spell, and much like in Great Britain too, there were always local variants. Does the coin actually state '2' on it?

Or just tell me what the writing says on the coin and describe the coat of arms, it should have the name of the state or be identifiable somehow.

I thought that chap from Channel 4 already got the job.

Actually the information given by the colleauge at the BBC (Only name dropping, I'm not a BBC employee or anything!) was completely correct about the New pence 2p. It was just the general public that seemed to have heard it wrong.

Approx size in MM would probably be most useful at this stage. It's probably not quite circular, so measure it at the widest point. Most silver Elizabeth I Coins look very similar indeed.

Yet to confirm a date at the end of April, probably Friday 23rd. So far it's always be a general phone in for the public, I offer the odd wise word, but there's no point trying to teach the public anything is there!

I have nearly 500, but I'm selling them to Motor cyclists as parts at the moment!

Stranger things have happened. Right, when I'm an excentic millionaire, I'll set it up and recruit you both.

What a wonderful idea, we could have special uniforms and be like, the coin police! Arresting people left right and centre for asking stupid questions, storing their coins in sweaty PVC, and collecting Isle of Man Cat coins among other very serious offences. We could even confiscate whole collections that were not being taken care of properly, and put them into a home!

I suppose, in Germany, how on earth would a German police man (and they do all have moustaches!) know what was a real Anne farthing, and what wasn't! But even in the UK I've never heard of anyone getting prosecuted for having demonetized forgeries. I even had my case checked once at Stansted by customs, it had at least 8 forgeries in it. I just explained I was a coin dealer taking this lot to a London coin fair, and they waved me on.

I have some photos of Irish farm animal patterns, other designs that were considered for the first modern Irish coinage, and some look far better than the designs they stuck with. I suppose taste must change over time. Talking of Irish coins I found a 1943 Half Crown yesterday in Fine, one of only an estimated 400, as they were recalled to be melted down (they were .750 silver) and they were replaced with cu-ni coins. Actually, the horse on the back of that isn't too bad. But yes, I do like the South Afriacan Springbok (isn't that the correct animal name?) on my 1947 ZAR proof 5 Shilling coin (soon to appear in the colonial section).

I think if you can show that you had no intent in passing them off as the real things (ie they are part of a collection) then the law enforcement angencies would be very unlikely to persue the matter, especially with old, non legal, non precious metal coinage. It would just cost too much to bother with. It is a very unclear area though. I have quite a few old forgeries; Queen Anne - George VI (Mostly GIII) and find them facinating. I know some people even collect modern fake £1 coins. Now that would be touch and go if you were caught with 50 of them!

I'm normally ok, with 'kind of worn'. I find it usually indicates a grade somewhere below fine. I expect it'll turn out to be a halfpenny, as lots of halfpennies ended up in British American colonies at that time. Some were even forged there.

Alright, alright, but it was a better atempt than our friend with the 'silver coin'.

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If I wanted to sell a pocket watch I would go into detail about what metal it was, shape, size, if it has a lid or not, the type of hands, the type of numbers, chain type, and of course most importantly the makers marks on the back if present. Even for someone who knows nothing about anything, that was very feeble, I'm sure you'll agree. And I never pass them by, you do get worthwhille things offered sometimes.

Trust me man, grass doesn't make green smoke!

Well, they used the web form on my 'Coin bits for old bobs' page, so I must assume that the person wants to exchange the mystery coin for collecting accessories or books. Although people like that just use the first form they come across, so you're right, I don't know if they want to sell it, exchange it, or even buy one!

Good point Geoff, but I'm far to gulliable to have even thought about that. And I'm far too busy to have thought about the latter. Right, if I find out it was any of you lot!

Someone sent me a message, hoping to sell me a coin. I thought I'd post it here, because it has to be about the most detailed articulate and concise coin offer I ever received!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <*********@yahoo.com> To: <cp@predecimal.com> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Coin bits for old bobs > Predecimal.com Contact form. It was submitted by > (*********@yahoo.com) on Thursday, April 01, 2004 at 11:33:50 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > message: one small silver coin a face with inscription on one side and a man sitting with a lance on the other. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This was my reply, I don't know why I bother. I should have just deleted the message. I waste my time on these everyday. Well that's useful info thanks!! How on earth am I supposed to know what you are talking about with feeble details like that??? How big is it? What does the writing say? Where is it from? What date? That's like trying to sell a car by saying in a newspaper ad: 'Red car for sale, with steering wheel' !!! Chris Perkins www.predecimal.com

You had an offer for something that you don't know anything about! I must assume you have pictures in that case, as it's difficult to sell something when you don't know what it is. Can you register and post them here or email them to me (particularly the Guinea), and I think Sylvester will want to see it too. cp@predecimal.com