Chris Perkins

It turns out that the winner called the custodian of the car (my dad) and arracnged to go and get it today at midday. But, he never turned up, and now he has half an hour before dad offers it to the underbidder (who is still very keen).

I was expecting something like that. Had it been a perfect example and a convertible then it would have gone for 5x as much. I've just emailed an underbidder who was kind enough to come and see it twice and take it for a test drive. He can have it for £900 and I'll report the buyer to email, flag it as a non paying bidder and hopefully get the ebay fees back!

I didn't want in the last few minutes. No contact yet. I've sent him a message giving him 24hrs before I offer it to others.

Yes and no contact yet! I emailed last night. You'd think that most people, when they win a car they'd be ready and eager at the email wouldn't you! There was however a chap that took it for a test drive and was very interested. He was 3rd on the bidding, so I know at least that'd he'd probably have it for £900.

Claim it was a 1911 proof set in a red case, worth £500! Relistically they were probably worth about 1% of that if they were average circulated coins of Victoria or George V. If you don't know what they were, it's impossible to guess.

Gouby is good for pennies, and there may well be other specialists for other denominations. Use google to seach on 'coins gouby' or 'coins cooke'. I'd rather not give them free links! But they're not hard to find. Also, the forum here has a few unlisted varieties covered. Most people still refer to Peck, Freeman, Rayner etc. As far as I know, there is no definitive online version. You could also download my book, which lists quite a few, but isn't free: http://www.predecimal.com/books/bookshop.htm

It was the 10p, but only because the coin was made smaller and all larger 10p's/Florins were therefore demonetized. Rob is right about the double florin too.

Scrap value as 1936 pennies are relatively common in UNC condition for not a lot of money. Hence, no one (apart from a beginner or date collector) would want anything under EF.

Yes, you! Can you do me a separate email for each with a large picture in each. I'll then decide how to split this lot up into different forums, otherwise it's way too confusing.

Alright, you can stop now, that's too much and I'd like to organise them into other areas!

Can you also email me these picture at high res, best quality as you can. I'll certainly consider including them in the next book. cp@predecimal.com

It used to go back to just 1821, but I thought that illogical so pushed it back to 1797 as it marks the start of proper round machine made coins. In the future it could go back further, but then there will be the extra printing costs and weight to consider. With an under £5.00 price it can't contain everything. The best thing would be the Sylvester book covering milled up to 1800.

If die varieties are obvious to the naked eye on an average coin, and something different, as is the 1899 example above, then I see no harm in pointing them out in the book. I know what you mean though, and I'd really rather not go into the depth that Freeman etc go into!

There probably would, but making people find it and use it would be something else. For that kind of thing you would need a quite large and varied number of numismatists who collect various things to report on their types. And, I predict you'd probably have trouble confirming them! For example, an Australian emailed me the other day convinced that he had 1855 pennies, both plain trident with far colon and close colon. When I saw the pictures, although both worn, one was clearly ornamental! I think I'd only ever include varieties that I have seen photgraphic evidence, or the coin with my own eyes. Can you start another forum in this new area entitled 1899 wide date penny and put a copy of the picture in there? And also, do you have bigger, higher quality images to email me?

Yes, Mr Pulakis is a member of the forum and sent them from the Forum software. It's unsolicitored of course, but he doesn't actually know your email address unless you reply. His website is real and won't do anything dodgy by visiting it. He should have really asked me first, but I'll turn a blind eye this time.

It would never come out in print.

Unfortunately, that's too old for the book (which starts with cartwheels at 1797).

Thanks, I had one of those last year, not that nice. I need really good images of the detail really. When that prints, it'll just look normal.

They weren't all like that you know, although they did have a habit of knocking up designs and then throwing a few hundred thousand cars together just out of what they could find in the parts bin! Mainly because they never had any money. They did of course have a striking workforce too! And when they weren't on strike they were often plain sloppy. The workers that built the EU Triumph that I currently have on eBay (hence the registration) seemed like they knew what they were doing, purely because it still goes and consists mainly of non oxidised steel!

In the book you mean, not here? On here I'd just like to see evidence of unlisted stuff. In the book though, if you have 300dpi images of the usual culprits then, please do email the to me!

There's another seat for the wife Juan. Also useful for bags of potatoes...Whatever you prefer really.

I don't know how much shipping would be! Nor do I actually know where you are, you seem to be a citizen of the world.

I could do with a quality image of that for the next book too.

Oh really, well in that case I'll move this to the confirmed unlisted variety section.

I sent a CCGB2005 to him to see if he might be able to sell some. Never got a reply, and I seem to remember asking more than once. I won't be doing the same with CCGB2006! And the recent negative feedback where the reply admitted they were out of stock and then goes on the insult the buyers spelling skills is very tit for tat isn't it. Quite immature I thought.