Chris Perkins

Have you forgotten your password DAS?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...item=8358959398 Buy a CAC coin! Clearly they don't have that particular slang word over there.

So what we gonna do about it? (without naming names and getting sued all the way to Westminster )

You're absolutely right. There's far too much of it, and most of it claims to commemorate things that shouldn't need to be commemorated with a coin! All it is, is a good revenue generator for the RM. As soon as the masses started collecting coins in the 60's, the mints of the world thought 'Hang on a min, we can cash in on this'. So at first they made annual proof sets instead of just for coronations, jubilees and new coinages. That went ok through the 70's, and then they stepped things up a bit, a crown for 1977, fair enough it was a jubilee year (although it was made is huge numbers). Then another for '80 (not warranted), another for '81 (not warranted). Then they kept a steady pace until about the mid-late 90's when it all went barmy and they issue 1-5 new coins annually marking the most ridiculous things. And none of them are going to increase in value more than inflation (apart from errors like the '83 New 2p etc). This is a copy of a rather sad email I got yesterday: Hi We have been purchasing the Battle of Trafalgar Bicentenary Collection from the Westminster Collection and on the initial leaflet it looked like there would be 12 in the set, although it wasn't indicated how many. I have recently contacted the Westminster to find out that there are 29 to collect of which I have 13 so far and in total this would equal a purchase cost of £1200 if completed. Obviously as this was marked as a limited edition set to 14,500 I am in two minds whether this set would be worth continuing to collect or whether to cut my losses now. The coins are £5 denomination - 925 Silver Proof - please can you advise whether this would be a sound investment or whether I should invest in different coins? If not a good investment - where can I go to sell my coins and would this be at a loss? Additionally could I go back to Westminster to complain that they miss sold their product by not confirming how many coins would have to be purchased? Many thanks Rachel --------------------------------------------- I asked her if she really thought that 14,500 people would really want the set of 29 coins in say 20 years. I told her that there would be very little demand and that she should cut her losses now. I think something really needs to be done to inform the public about this modern crap that is promoted as 'limited edition' delibrately to get people to buy it imagining that somehow it'll be like a 1934 crown in 10-30 years! I think it's morally wrong, and I hate it! It's enough to put people off coin collecting for life before they really experience real coin collecting. And I hope that as many people read this thread as possible.

I hear usually negative things about her. I bought something once and wasn't pleased with the 'as struck' description, because it wasn't. I kept it though, as it was inexpensive. She told me at the time that she has a BNTA member do the grading for her....As if that were some kind of guarantee, like all BNTA members can grade properly! I for one, don't think I'll buy anything again.

A book on British/Irish campaign medals of the last century, and hopefully a new Irish coin book.

Already done! It's not advanced, but includes a lot of history information. I'm talking to a typesetter at the moment!

There certainly is, especially if you don't collect gold or pre 1797 coins!

Ok! If you print it though, bear in mind that it won't be book quality 300dpi unless your printer is a good one and you use photo paper. Most home printers do about 150-200dpi on the page, whereas professionally produced books are at least 300dpi. But nevermind all the techie stuff, I'm sure you'll find it useful. When you buy it, it will be made instantly available to you.

The reason the printed version is black and white is purely to keep the retail price under £5.00. The costs are obviously higher to print full/part colour books. The actual book is generated electronically in full technicolour and the available electronic version is a full colour PDF. On the main predecimal.com book section if you have a look at the printed version there is an option to buy it and the colour PDF with a small saving! The PDF is only available through Rotographic/Predecimal!

Like it! Buy the Spink Book, and ask your questions here! Do Spink have a forum? If so, it's not as good as this one.

I very much doubt they went to all that effort with new dies, early strikings etc. Just try to get the most pristine examples you can and call it a day! The 1960 Exhibition one is pretty prooflike but always usually bag marked. And it's common for people to have put normal ones in the plastic cases.

As far as I know, the Specimen ones were the same as the 'circulation' issues. Unless you call the issues in the small plastic cases specimens, which is probably what the book means. But they are indistinguishable. Don't forget the wonderful Churchill Crown, and the 1960 and 1953, as well as the later ones (although they were all £5 coin type crowns).

That was successful wasn't it.

Ok, I'll delete the other 2 topics that you started on this Dave!

Yes, and I believe the mint in colonial Pretoria is now the main modern South African mint (or at least part of it).

I don't think you'd be able to do worse than the genuine callers! Some of the rubbish they have sometimes makes me wonder why I sit in 3-4 hours of traffic each broadcast.

I didn't say there was, I'll be hiring one tomorrow too! (They must have been non VVC MGF's, or even the 1.6 Steptronic )

Late convertible XJS's are cheap, or at least relatively so compared to an XK8 convertible (like the one the baddy had in the Iceland chase on Ice in that recent Bond film). It bothers me that they are owned by Ford though, and in fact share the same chassis as the Aston Martin DB7 (also owned by Ford!).

It's sold and gone It went to the 3rd place man, who showed the most interest. Dad collected £950 in real cash money for it. I'm quite sad actually, because that was a damned good car. There aren't many TR7's these days that you'd be comfortable to drive to the Czech border and back again. Soon (when I sell the other one), I'll be without a Triumph for the first time in 10 years! I must get another!

Buy an album, some envelopes, coin trays, a book etc etc from the accessory section on http://www.predecimal.com Lots of people buy Christmas pressies from me.

I think with more expensive things I'll make it so that they have to have at least 10 positive. Good job it doesn't happen with coins. You coin people are an honest reliable lot aren't you, which is one of the things that keeps me doing it. You hear all kinds of horror stories about trading online, fortunately they rarely affect coin transactions. Give yourselves all a pat on the back.

He knew where the car was parked. My theory is that he saw it, didn't like it and simply went home and won't make contact. Or even worse, he nicked it! (dad hasn't checked yet, but I suppose that's pretty unlikely as I have his address). And I can't waste time, there are other TR7's and I want mine to go to the man who showed the most interest ASAP, before he finds another.

It turns out that the winner called the custodian of the car (my dad) and arracnged to go and get it today at midday. But, he never turned up, and now he has half an hour before dad offers it to the underbidder (who is still very keen).

I was expecting something like that. Had it been a perfect example and a convertible then it would have gone for 5x as much. I've just emailed an underbidder who was kind enough to come and see it twice and take it for a test drive. He can have it for £900 and I'll report the buyer to email, flag it as a non paying bidder and hopefully get the ebay fees back!