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Different monarch but still early milled - this is VF:

Hello my friends, So, I have been on a journey of numismatic endeavour to try and finally find my niche, and it's early milled Charles II silver, specifically Crowns and Halfcrowns. Anyway, I need your help please... Is the attached an example of a 3rd or 4th bust of King Charles II ?? And can any of you clever people point me towards a simple guide to distinguishing between them. Your help would be much appreciated. All the best, Weaver

For comparison here are two 1679 3rd bust crowns sold by LCA. The first they graded Fine, the second Very Fine.

Yes, there are many varieties in the series. You will enjoy seeing them once you have received your copy of ESC. I also agree it is the 3rd bust.

Good choice of series! Charles II is a fascinating period in history. Type III has short hair ties and Type IV has longer ties. Type IV: This is explained in the ESC (English silver coinage since 1649) Yours is a good looking example too. I would grade it as a bold fine (but I am not experienced with this series)

I wonder the same...If they don't change some of the proof and pattern designations, will submit changes for them - if they take them.

You're very welcome Weaver. I'd grade Fine. Maybe one or two other members here may like to offer their assessment?

Throw another lentil into the stewpot mother for tonight we live like kings!

Browsing the internet the other evening. Came across a site called Fanbety Store. Revisited this evening and spotted a familiar 1861 half penny 7 + D, available to buy now, at a discounted price. The title and photos seem to have been lifted directly from the eBay listing through which I purchased it back in August last year. I've alerted Winter Coins, the original seller and felt that a warning would be useful here too.