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I had a close look at this with a 40x loupe at the Midland yesterday, and was not convinced. There were some surface marks that in appearance hinted at an 8 over 6 overstrike, but I doubt that they were ever on the die. The coin is really far too worn to be sure, and I suspect wishful thinking. I wont be bidding. Jerry

Excellent work Brian. Must raid the Missus' penny jar The beads on your 1s & Ps to the left & right look different sizes, have you counted them? I wonder if there are different numbers. Love the "No Rivet" variety also, what is your thoughts, is it a worn/filled die or a different die altogether? Ian..

That's some good coining right there, Brian. Keep it going!

Well just spent another 6 hours going through over £40 worth of pennies before banking them for the kids group I run. I have managed to find a few more anomalies. Decimal Penny Variants 1992 – I found that there are 2 distinct reverse variants for this year Rev a – 1 of date and P of PENNY are both to right of a border bead Rev b – 1 of date and P of PENNY are both to leftt of a border bead Out of 15 x 1992 pennies 5 were Rev a and 10 were Rev b 2000 – Again I found only 2 distinct variants for this year although I note that DaveG found 3 in his survey done back in 2013. Rev A – as 1999 penny the 1 of date points left of a border bead, P of Penny is to a gap between border beads. Rev B – as 2001 penny the 1 of date and P of Penny both point to a border bead Out of 94 x 2000 pennies 64 were Rev A and 30 Rev B 1994 – This date has the 2 reverse Portcullis types 1 & 2 but it is interesting to note that the type 1 has the legend the same as Rev a and the type 2 like Rev b of the 1992 penny. For consistency out of 94 x 1994 pennies 50 were type 1 Portcullis and 44 type 2 More to look at and document as think there must be more varieties out there.......... A few pics of the 1992 reverses. Sorry about the picture quality but it does show the differences OK. ..............also out of another 59 x Portcullis 2008 I found just 1 more Type 2

I have decided to get a poppy lapel pin this year instead of wearing a paper one. (The paper version never survive long with me and I tend to be wearing just the stalk after half a day). The poppy shop has apparently been selling these rather special gold poppies since the summer http://www.poppyshop.org.uk/somme-1916-poppy-lapel-pin.html It's made from brass from shell fuses recovered from the Somme battlefields. The red enamel contains earth also from Somme. Very thoughtful. All proceeds go to the Royal British Legion. Luckily for me, mine arrived right on Remembrance Day. I think I will wear it for a week or two longer as it is discrete enough on the lapel. Then I will probably use it again in future years and just make a donation each time.

Great to hear you've purchased one, Sword! I've been working with The Poppy Shop (official ecommerce site for RBL) for a little over a year now and I can't recommend their products or the good causes they support enough. For those that haven't seen, the video on how they're made can be seen here:

My latest acquisition is a Freeman 17, which is in GEF with some residual lustre. Unfortunately there are some light but noticeable scratches, especially to the reverse, which do detract somewhat. But as it's scarce, otherwise very nice, and I got it for a reduced price, it was worth buying. Another notch on the 1860 and 1861 joint series project bedpost.

I returned the coin to Atlas today for a refund. As I've mentioned before, I really appreciated receiving the many diverse comments and opinions that I received from the forum's members. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but I finally decided to take advantage of Atlas's generous return privilege.

Hope you don't mind me rehashing this thread. I have literally in the past week and a half done a similar survey after emptying out my penny jar for the first time in about 2+ years. My findings almost mirror Dave's. For the 2008 I found out of 37 with Portcullis only 1 type 2 and for 2007 out of 46 there were 28 type 2 and 18 type 1, 1991 I didn't have many but out of 8 found 1 type 2. The others are almost exactly the same ratio's. I also found 1 coin which had no sign of rivets, this time a 2007 still with good lustre. I have attached an image below. I am at present trying to put together a full set of decimal pennies from the circulation issues with good lustre..........a lot harder than I thought!! So can we assume that the 2008 type 2 is actually quite a scarce variant?