This article deals quite comprehensively with the possible issues arising from putative identification of detector found objects, and I urge you all to read it.
https://thedailydetectorist.com/2016/01/21/hoard-of-celtic-ring-money-turned-out-to-be-remains-of-victorian-curtain-factory/
Jerry
This little beauty arrived today.Obviously sellers pictures.In hand it is fantastic.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222007959476?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I must admit, Matt, I hadn't realised they were quite that rare. Took a look at some of the major collections and at some LCA auctions before discovering the thread linked to above
Apparently there's only one, and it's in the British Museum - all is revealed on this thread from 2014
You can write a quick post thanking me later, Ian, as I've had to spend a fair bit of time searching for you
It does not seem that long ago that I was staring at Obverses and Reverses trying to figure them out, it is surprising how obvious they become with time. Just keep looking and you will start to identify the differences. I know it can be a bit daunting when you start out, but asking is the best way...otherwise you can drive yourself crazy
This is a risky way of collecting, which will come back to bite you at some point. The price difference between a gold sovereign and a plated copy is approaching a couple hundred quid. The best advice would be to buy books and read up before potentially wasting a lot of money. By all means ask questions, but before the event and not after.
Found it! mine has the rentered 4 like your penny plus possibly a broken 7, corrosion doesn't help.
Your example is much clearer and confirms at least that the 4 over 4 exists
I'm leaning toward a combo of Jerry's and Ian's thoughts, it has such likeness to the shape of having tape across it while the rest of it has been exposed to something.
OK, so here's the 1845 shilling ex Cheshire collection that I picked up. The pictures were taken on a windowsill using just natural light. In hand the coin looks much darker.