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I did include the two 87's but planned to look at my copy of ESC when I get home from work to learn if there were other variations I didn't know about Now I know what to check on!

If you wanted to be really fussy a full set would include the 1887 Arabic 1 and Roman 1 variants and the 1888 and 1889 Inverted 1 (or is it a die-filled normal I serif or broken punch?) for second I in Victoria variants. All three variants are listed in Spink so I think it's reasonable to include those in the set. I did anyway...

While I can understand being worried about fakes, the wreath I am considering is from a UK seller with 100%/22286 transactions and accepts returns. Price is consistent with what I see on londoncoins. Seems about the best I can do from this side of the pond.

There are a lot of fakes around so I wouldn't touch a wreath crown on eBay these days. Prices at auction are generally lower anyway, even allowing for the add-ons and postage. The last two I bought were a 1928 and a 1931 from lockdales in 2021.

Thanks! I did do a bit of snooping around and find I could get all 5 double florins in AUNC/UNC for less than the more expensive one. But a good auction house is even better

It might be worth checking out UK auction houses that do still ship to the US. This one doesn't preclude US and has a few shillings in the current auction: https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/60e4343a274a32c193156da1ff265135/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/general-auction-silver-gold-coins-sets-numismatics-meda/

I have to say I was very happy with the result of the earliest sale in LC. Found in a lot of pennies covered in soil bought locally. I paid £10 including flower pot on the grounds I wasn't going to clean all of them up for him just to find bugger all. I overpaid for the soil though. :)

Yeah, nothing even close to those prices at www.londoncoins.co.uk unless you get even higher up the food chain Hmm. Might just be better to look for something different. Could be a good time to finish/upgrade the double florins

Several of the his claimed discoveries (e.g. the 1875H and VIGTORIA pennies) have turned out to be not what he thought, so maybe it's just newbie enthusiasm.

For me in the midwestern US, auction houses are ... difficult... at best. Both do have best offer listed. I know there is a web site with current auction results tabulated, I'll have to look see.

I am a bit out of date buying this sort of thing on Ebay, so both those prices seem high to me. If I was going to splash out that sort of cash, I would go for the second one as it is appreciably better. Is either sale open to best offer? I tend to do my buying through auction houses these days. At least you can be sure the price is "current market value" or close to it. Bear in mind most of the Ebay sellers are buying at auction and flipping to Ebay for a profit.

I have some money coming sometime in the next two weeks that I plan to use mostly for coins. Two I have been considering are these 1692 & 1693 William and Mary shillings. As these would be two of the most expensive coins I've seriously considered, I thought I would ask what people here think. Both are from ebay & photos are from the ads. The first is this 1692. Asking price is £325/$440.73 The other is this 1693. The asking price for this one is USD $795/£585 Thoughts? Quality seems fine, especially the second, but I don't have enough experience at this end to be sure the price is good. I'm looking at a 1927 "Wreath" Crown but I know that pricing better for a "modern" AUNC coin. This is a classic "horse of a different color" (colour? heh) Thank you for any advice.

Yes it is. A search threw up three others sold by London Coins in 2019/2019 (both auction #167) and 2017 (aution #156), all in significantly worse condition but with clear G.

Yes, you're right, it's the LCA picture of my coin - strange how different photos of the same coin can be so different at first glance.

Yes, as Coys says, 10cf2a, the same as the coin I posted in ‘coin acquisition’ recently. The 2 is for the Crown, and the ‘a’ is because the left ornament of the crown remains intact. It’s ’b’ when the ornament breaks and disappears. Here’s the ‘b’ version taken from Blunt’s website. https://www.rodblunt.com/edwardian-pennies-group10s

In another post he mentions he’s a beginner, 12 weeks into the hobby. Fair play that he’s navigating all the auction archives, retrieving past sales, in-touch with all the literature, and holding his own in the variety conversations, all in such a short window. You simply have to take your hat off to him/her, that’s very, very impressive!

Agreed re same coin

I would say that it's pretty clearly a clogged die. Has all the characteristics.

I had thought the same - one great rarity would be very lucky, two would be incredible, more than two seems ... odd?

Yes, picture please

It looks like the picture of the coin sold on London Coins in auction 180 5/3/2023

Out of interest, may I ask where this picture came from ?

I've had another really good look at the two pictures and I feel sure I can see many duplicated marks on both pictured examples [ arrow marked ] ??? Your coin on right

The BP1860Jb you have listed on the website as you know sold for 3k. Which is a fair chunk of money, I get what you are saying. I was just using the F90 as example of early on when there is not many availible examples of a certain type they appear to do better at auction, thats the point I was making. Is there a collector out there ready to buy a BP1860Jb probably. Who knows what any given person may find interesting or how they value different types? I'm a complete beginner since three months hence all my questions and also mistakes. What is good for this type is Michael Gouby has acknowledged, confirmed and written about it. As I'm learning that in itself will increase interest for sure. Until now there was not another example availible which means no supply and in turn no demand. On its own maybe it's not so important but as part of a collection personaly I think it adds value.

Sorry about that Richard but it does look like No 11 . And I've also made a slip up above as its a 4+D 🙃