Paulus Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 Given the continued scrutiny, quite rightly, over the impartiality, objectivity and consistency around CGS grading, I invite thoughts on these 3 coins (none of which are being submitted to an LCA auction)What grades do you think CGS assigned to these newly graded coins (traditional UK grades or CGS numbers, CGS pics)?Coin 1, 1893 FlorinCoin 2, George II Crown Quote
Paulus Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 Coin 3, Coinery (Stuart) will recognise this one, 1901 Half Crown ... weak at the lance, what did they make of that I wonder? Quote
Coinery Posted May 12, 2015 Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) 80 and 60!Do they grade with those numbers? That's where I reckon? Lovely florin, Paul!Edit: and 100 Edited May 12, 2015 by Coinery Quote
Paulus Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) They aren't far from me, and I have visited twice, but normally I post. I am not a serial slabber, less than 0.1% of my coins are slabbed, but every few months I send them a small batch ... I find they are consistently very strict, both with grade and whether they will assign a grade at all, but, like others, see some inconsistency with their photography (especially in the early years), and have questions in my mind regarding their grading of coins submitted by parties with close connections or vested interests Edited May 12, 2015 by Paulus Quote
PWA 1967 Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 My guess and not much idea apart from the pennies. 1893 florin 751743 crown 651901 h/crown 75 Quote
Prax Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Same boat as Pete wrt pennies but I reckon 80, 60, 78If I get them wrong I blame your photography skills Edited May 13, 2015 by Prax Quote
azda Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 I'll add Mine here seeing as its now landed at CGS, same Numbers game as Paulus. Quote
jacinbox Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 I'll add Mine here seeing as its now landed at CGS, same Numbers game as Paulus.78 Quote
mike Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 It's difficult as you can't properly assess lustre, hairlines and other attributes which make the CGS grade, but my guess would be:784578 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 This post has gone quiet ,out of interest what grades were they paulus ? Quote
Paulus Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 Just waiting for the grades to be finalised, should be any day now. I'll post as soon as I have them ... Quote
azda Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Still waiting on my grade, but its been attributed as the 1*+A Quote
pokal02 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 In old money I'd say GVF+ (rev slightly better than obv), GF and NEF respectively. This seems to be about 53, 30 and 55. (I seem to be lowest on the G2 crown but can't grade it any higher). Vic OH's are a prime example of how the VF grade has become debased over the last 10-20 years. I think the 'old' VF may have been too severe (I was looking at a 2004 Spink Circular earlier and there seemed little if any difference between the Vic OH VF's and EF's!) but think it's gone too far the other way now. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 My guess and not much idea apart from the pennies. 1893 florin 751743 crown 651901 h/crown 75I am bored and looking again think the crown at 65 to high ,guess at 50 . Quote
Paulus Posted May 23, 2015 Author Posted May 23, 2015 Well the grades are STILL not finalised, but unless they change their mind, these are the grades that will be assigned:1893 Florin, CGS 75 (UNC or near so) Quote
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