davidrj Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Definitely normal obv 2, no space after GRA: There are reports of 1912s with a hollow neck, but I don't think these have either been confirmed or have the attributes of Gouby X Edited February 19, 2016 by davidrj Quote
davidrj Posted February 19, 2016 Posted February 19, 2016 3 hours ago, davidrj said: Definitely normal obv 2, no space after GRA: 1 Quote
Prax Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 On 09/02/2016 at 5:25 PM, secret santa said: Rich, Just spotted my 5+D ONF. Apologies for the delay Quote
Prax Posted February 21, 2016 Author Posted February 21, 2016 Picked up my 1897 pennies and compared around 40 low grade dot pennies and observed the variations in the positioning of the dot. In most specimens the flaws are as shown in the bottom 2 specimens (circular and away from the teeth). But in a few specimens as shown in the first 2 pics the flaw is not circular and almost in contact with the teeth. Has anyone observed a non dot flaw with the 1897 pennies? Would love to hear from you. Quote
RLC35 Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Prax, I just looked at my two "Dot" coins and 3 non dot 1897's, and didn't find any cracks or globs like you show near the border teeth, on any of them. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 The second one is a real flaw rather than a dot,however in a different position than the normal dot as you said. Prax have you seen any of the flaws on other 1897 dates ,such as the normal one. If you have forty DOT ones it no wonder people are stuggling to find them 1 Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Mine's just a dot flaw too, no die crack on it. As Pete says, the second one is a die crack/beginning of a rim cud. Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 21 hours ago, Prax said: Picked up my 1897 pennies and compared around 40 low grade dot pennies and observed the variations in the positioning of the dot. In most specimens the flaws are as shown in the bottom 2 specimens (circular and away from the teeth). But in a few specimens as shown in the first 2 pics the flaw is not circular and almost in contact with the teeth. Has anyone observed a non dot flaw with the 1897 pennies? Would love to hear from you. Prax, I just spotted this while doing the dailies, it looks like it has the beginning of the die crack just like your first picture. Matt Quote
1949threepence Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) Interesting one on e bay - going as a BIN for £400 - where the letters on the reverse are very weak/almost absent - link Edited February 22, 2016 by 1949threepence Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 22, 2016 Posted February 22, 2016 We were just discussing that in the die clogs thread, surely it's got to be one the last coins struck with that die before it literally fell apart! Would be nice to own but it's really expensive. Quote
1949threepence Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Nordle11 said: We were just discussing that in the die clogs thread, surely it's got to be one the last coins struck with that die before it literally fell apart! Would be nice to own but it's really expensive. It is expensive. Plus there is a very noticeable die crack running across the area of the lighthouse. Educational piece. I wouldn't buy it, mind. Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, 1949threepence said: It is expensive. Plus there is a very noticeable die crack running across the area of the lighthouse. Educational piece. I wouldn't buy it, mind. I actually like the die crack better than the letters - it's the biggest I've seen. To me it's just defective, and not something I'd want (like many so-called "varieties" IMO). Quote
Nordle11 Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 And another big one running through BRITT on the obverse. Definitely an educational piece. Yes die cracks are for the error collectors, definitely not varieties. 1 Quote
Prax Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 On 22/02/2016 at 2:29 PM, Nordle11 said: Prax, I just spotted this while doing the dailies, it looks like it has the beginning of the die crack just like your first picture. Matt Very interesting Matt. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Quote
Prax Posted February 23, 2016 Author Posted February 23, 2016 On 21/02/2016 at 6:34 PM, PWA 1967 said: Prax have you seen any of the flaws on other 1897 dates ,such as the normal one. No Pete I haven't. The dots on the O of Victoria are news to me as well. Quote
Prax Posted February 27, 2016 Author Posted February 27, 2016 Added this week. Poor grade specimen but not bad for £.3.99 including postage 1861 5+G (R18) Quote
PWA 1967 Posted February 27, 2016 Posted February 27, 2016 How an earth did you spot that Prax. Hat off to you ,you have a lot more patience than me Quote
Prax Posted February 27, 2016 Author Posted February 27, 2016 Pete it was listed as 1861 5+G (R18) and no one seemed interested at 99p 1 Quote
Nordle11 Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 What is it Prax, I think my work's blocker is stopping the images from showing Quote
PWA 1967 Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Thats quality Prax. Its a F111 2 over 1 Matt Quote
PWA 1967 Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Is that in a slab Prax with the variety not mentioned ?. Quote
Prax Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said: Thats quality Prax. Its a F111 2 over 1 Matt 15 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said: Is that in a slab Prax with the variety not mentioned ?. Yes Pete I took a punt with the 2 over 1 as it wasn't obvious from the seller's images. Edited March 1, 2016 by Prax Quote
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