1949threepence Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said: Yes Terry or the 1901 that sold for £180+ LCA The Elstree collection 😮 I have mailed you the letter Mike although nothing exciting. Thanks Pete. Quote
Diaconis Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 Another of my pastimes /obsessions is conjuring since I was about 10 yrs old. Years ago, I asked someone I trusted to make things for me but he started making them up himself and selling them under his own name, water under the bridge now, but he did (and still does) make a lot of money at my expense. So, I decided to teach myself and purchased the contents of a clockmakers workshop, lathes/milling machine etc in order to make my own tricks and devices. Without giving too much away, there are a LOT of tricky coins out there, most of which remain in magicians hands but they occasionally get spent by mistake, you may have ended up with some in your change at some time and wondered what the heck it was. Double-headed coins, coins that fall apart and have another coin inside of it etc, etc. The variations are endless. Back to the thread, the graining on the penny looks like it was done to give better grip when executing a conjurers sleight called a coin roll-down (google it) where the flat edges of a penny would not ensure enough grip. I've seen several of these in the past, made for the conjurers of old. They are, imo, worthless. In the photo below you'll see some I made for that very purpose. Grained on a milling machine equipped with dividing head set at 2-degree intervals to give 180 grooves. (Btw, the silver coins are Morgan silver dollars and the copper is a fantasy piece). 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 Yes we have them all over here ,the best ones were made by Eddie gibson although i think he has passed away now but brilliantly made ☺️ Quote
Diaconis Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 Yes, Peter, Eddie was a fine maker and created many wonderful items, I spent valuable and enjoyable time in his company. 1 Quote
alfnail Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Did I miss something on this one, went for about twice what I expected? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1860-QUEEN-VICTORIA-GREAT-BRITAIN-BUN-HEAD-BRONZE-PENNY-1D-COIN-/362550780257?nma=true&si=KU3owCk%2BD8%2Fos%2F2s%2FhI7oP0uhRo%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Perhaps some interesting ghosting, a flying ship and a broken index finger...………...… but I thought that all these things were quite common! 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 13 hours ago, alfnail said: Did I miss something on this one, went for about twice what I expected? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1860-QUEEN-VICTORIA-GREAT-BRITAIN-BUN-HEAD-BRONZE-PENNY-1D-COIN-/362550780257?nma=true&si=KU3owCk%2BD8%2Fos%2F2s%2FhI7oP0uhRo%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Perhaps some interesting ghosting, a flying ship and a broken index finger...………...… but I thought that all these things were quite common! Don't think you missed anything other than it was a very nice coin. Choice piece, well worth the money. Quote
Cliff Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) Ian, Mike: Off on a tangent and maybe clear my head clear my head, isn't this a 2D, not a 1D as was originally offered (Obv beads toughing rim), F10? Edited February 26, 2019 by Cliff Typo Quote
PWA 1967 Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Yes its a F10 ,think the seller meant 1d as in the denomination and not the dies which would be the mule ☺️ Quote
Cliff Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Ah ah, got it Pete, thanks. I apologize to all for my confusion. Must think things through a bit more before opening my mouth . Quote
alfnail Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Cliff said: Ian, Mike: Off on a tangent and maybe clear my head clear my head, isn't this a 2D, not a 1D as was originally offered (Obv beads toughing rim), F10? Hi Cliff, how are you keeping? Was thinking maybe it's a trick 'double heads' penny then!! Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 27, 2019 Posted February 27, 2019 The verdigris has come off. The edges are knackered. But £9 all-in. 4 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) The die crack through the V on the obverse is a good second indicator Jon.........Hat off 🙂 The idea is you take another photo to show people after taking the verd off Edited February 28, 2019 by PWA 1967 Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 I've given it a rub on my T-shirt so it's looking much better. I'll post another photo tomorrow when I've got some daylight. 1 Quote
Mr T Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 11 hours ago, mrbadexample said: The verdigris has come off. The edges are knackered. But £9 all-in. What type is it? Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr T said: What type is it? Dot on trident. 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, mrbadexample said: I've given it a rub on my T-shirt so it's looking much better. I'll post another photo tomorrow when I've got some daylight. Sacrilege !!! - but nice one anyway. Neat capture, Jon. Edited February 28, 2019 by 1949threepence 1 Quote
mrbadexample Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, 1949threepence said: Sacrilege !!! - but nice one anyway. Neat capture, Jon. I don't think it'll hurt this one. Someone kicking it up and down the street already did that! 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted March 6, 2019 Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) Post contents amended and transferred to the "opinions on lot 558 of june LCA auction - 1861 8/6" thread. Edited March 6, 2019 by 1949threepence Quote
mrbadexample Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I think this is a F78? Reverse Gouby ja so must be F72 or F78 if my understanding is correct, and I'm fairly sure it's obverse Gouby L. Quote
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