Exonumia - Modern Odds & Sods

[davidrj]

We don't appear to have a specific area for exonumia - so I thought I would start a thread here

Tourist Pennies sold to kids in gift shops at museums etc

The top two are honest straight forward souvenirs and are obviously from the same manufacturer ( does H refer to the Birmingham Mint??)

Both are 30.2mm diameter, the 1987 Ironbridge weighs 8.96g, and Llechwedd 9.2g

The other two are more interesting

The 1901 appears to be an electrotype, seam clearly visible on the edge, 30.5mm , 6.33g

The 1887 is copper washed white metal, 29.1mm, 4.6g and is marked "COPY"

One wonders why? Old pennies are available by the bucketload for buttons, and the kids could take home a bit of real history

[TomGoodheart]

Those are kinda cool!

[davidrj]

Those are kinda cool!

Yes an interesting, and cheap sideline collection

A couple more Tourist pennies - the Original London Eye

These appear to be from three different sources, - unmarked, Spink & MB. Anyone know more?

[TomGoodheart]

I'm especially taken by the recent replicas and electroplates. I shall have to look out for similar next time I'm visiting a stately home or museum.

As you say, genuine Victorian (and Elizabethan of course) pennies exist by the skipload. Curious to go to the effort of making the things!

[Colin G.]

These are my exonumia obsession...encased farthings, did not take off as well over here compared to the encased cents in the USA.

http://aboutfarthings.co.uk/Encased%20-%20Crockers%20Drapery%20Exhibition.html as an example

http://aboutfarthings.co.uk/Encased%20Farthings.html my web page and list of the types, if anyone comes across any that are not Chelsea Hotel or Hooper Struves (the two most common types), let me know I am always interested.

[davidrj]

These are my exonumia obsession...encased farthings, did not take off as well over here compared to the encased cents in the USA.

http://aboutfarthings.co.uk/Encased%20-%20Crockers%20Drapery%20Exhibition.html as an example

http://aboutfarthings.co.uk/Encased%20Farthings.html my web page and list of the types, if anyone comes across any that are not Chelsea Hotel or Hooper Struves (the two most common types), let me know I am always interested.

I'll look out for them, seen the encased cents on ebay, never noticed the farthings, but the I tend to put "penny" in my searches

[Accumulator]

Interesting sideline David!

[Coinery]

If they're cheap, I should probably get on board!

[davidrj]

Still sorting my miscellaneous box - another "penny", brass 30.3mm, 6g

Bath Society, No. 6, Pierrepont-Place, for the investigation and relief of occasional distress, encouragement of industry, and supression of vagrants, street-beggars, and impostors, instituted January 1805, under the sanction of the mayor and corporation of Bath, and the justices acting in Bath and its vicinity

I'm assuming it's a token for a meal or a bed for the night. Can't find any reference to this coin on Google, so don't know whether the counterstamped S is contemporay or not

Edited February 3, 2014 by davidrj

[RLC35]

Still sorting my miscellaneous box - another "penny", brass 30.3mm, 6g

Bath Society, No. 6, Pierrepont-Place, for the investigation and relief of occasional distress, encouragement of industry, and supression of vagrants, street-beggars, and impostors, instituted January 1805, under the sanction of the mayor and corporation of Bath, and the justices acting in Bath and its vicinity

I'm assuming it's a token for a meal or a bed for the night. Can't find any reference to this coin on Google, so don't know whether the counterstamped S is contemporay or not

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either.

[Rob]

Still sorting my miscellaneous box - another "penny", brass 30.3mm, 6g

Bath Society, No. 6, Pierrepont-Place, for the investigation and relief of occasional distress, encouragement of industry, and supression of vagrants, street-beggars, and impostors, instituted January 1805, under the sanction of the mayor and corporation of Bath, and the justices acting in Bath and its vicinity

I'm assuming it's a token for a meal or a bed for the night. Can't find any reference to this coin on Google, so don't know whether the counterstamped S is contemporay or not

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either.

Given the remit includes the suppression of vagrants, street beggars and imposters, I can't see it being anything to do with the baths even though they are less than 100yds away. The latter were frequented by the well to do of Georgian society and were unlikely to be affected by the lower classes

Edited February 3, 2014 by Rob

[RLC35]

Still sorting my miscellaneous box - another "penny", brass 30.3mm, 6g

Bath Society, No. 6, Pierrepont-Place, for the investigation and relief of occasional distress, encouragement of industry, and supression of vagrants, street-beggars, and impostors, instituted January 1805, under the sanction of the mayor and corporation of Bath, and the justices acting in Bath and its vicinity

I'm assuming it's a token for a meal or a bed for the night. Can't find any reference to this coin on Google, so don't know whether the counterstamped S is contemporay or not

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either.

Given the remit includes the, I can see it being anything to do with the baths even though they are less than 100yds away. The latter were frequented by the well to do of Georgian society and were unlikely to be affected by the lower classes

I guess I missed the part on the coin that says anything about "suppression of vagrants, street beggars and imposters." Mineral baths have long been advertised to relieve occasional distress though. LOL!

[Coinery]

Still sorting my miscellaneous box - another "penny", brass 30.3mm, 6g

Bath Society, No. 6, Pierrepont-Place, for the investigation and relief of occasional distress, encouragement of industry, and supression of vagrants, street-beggars, and impostors, instituted January 1805, under the sanction of the mayor and corporation of Bath, and the justices acting in Bath and its vicinity

I'm assuming it's a token for a meal or a bed for the night. Can't find any reference to this coin on Google, so don't know whether the counterstamped S is contemporay or not

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either.

Given the remit includes the suppression of vagrants, street beggars and imposters, I can't see it being anything to do with the baths even though they are less than 100yds away. The latter were frequented by the well to do of Georgian society and were unlikely to be affected by the lower classes

Having lived in Bath for a number of years I concur! It's still very much that way today, at least at the 'new' Bath Spa...very lovely, lovelies!

[Peckris]

Still sorting my miscellaneous box - another "penny", brass 30.3mm, 6g

Bath Society, No. 6, Pierrepont-Place, for the investigation and relief of occasional distress, encouragement of industry, and supression of vagrants, street-beggars, and impostors, instituted January 1805, under the sanction of the mayor and corporation of Bath, and the justices acting in Bath and its vicinity

I'm assuming it's a token for a meal or a bed for the night. Can't find any reference to this coin on Google, so don't know whether the counterstamped S is contemporay or not

Or is it a token for a mineral Bath? I can't find anything on it either.

Given the remit includes the suppression of vagrants, street beggars and imposters, I can't see it being anything to do with the baths even though they are less than 100yds away. The latter were frequented by the well to do of Georgian society and were unlikely to be affected by the lower classes

Having lived in Bath for a number of years I concur! It's still very much that way today, at least at the 'new' Bath Spa...very lovely, lovelies!

My guess is it's something to do with the Poor Law, which was still very Tudor in the early 19th Century, long before the workhouses and Daily Mail came into being.

[Rob]

My guess is it's something to do with the Poor Law, which was still very Tudor in the early 19th Century, long before the workhouses and Daily Mail came into being.

'Ere. What have you got against the Daily Mail. They are a long standing manufacturer of Britain's finest branded toilet tissue. Anyway, all you lefties need a target, otherwise you would be rebels without a cause.

[Peckris]

My guess is it's something to do with the Poor Law, which was still very Tudor in the early 19th Century, long before the workhouses and Daily Mail came into being.

'Ere. What have you got against the Daily Mail. They are a long standing manufacturer of Britain's finest branded toilet tissue. Anyway, all you lefties need a target, otherwise you would be rebels without a cause.

You think there's only one?

[Chris Perkins]

I've had those Earls Court wheel tokens before!

Currently I've got this. Circa 1840s Lloyds Newspaper ad. Threepence post free. The host coin, which can be identified in hand, is an 1805 Irish Halfpenny.

£3.30 inc postage if anyone wants it.

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

I need the 1895, 1896, and 1900 Earls Wheel medallions in bronze.... If anyone has any of those....

I have the 1900 in white metal.....

Not sure what metals were struck in what years.... Only that they were struck from 1895-1906 inclusive....

Don't know if there were multiple manufacturers in a given year, or multiple metals in a given year....

Or if the manufacturers and/or metals changed from year to year.....

[davidrj]

I need the 1895, 1896, and 1900 Earls Wheel medallions in bronze.... If anyone has any of those....

I have the 1900 in white metal.....

Not sure what metals were struck in what years.... Only that they were struck from 1895-1906 inclusive....

Don't know if there were multiple manufacturers in a given year, or multiple metals in a given year....

Or if the manufacturers and/or metals changed from year to year.....

Thanks, new info for me, I have 2 1897 but haven't yet checked them for die differences, I only noticed the "Spink" & MB after I'd scanned them for the post above, they've been sitting in my oddments box for years