Nick Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Did anybody catch the uncirculated 1905 halfcrown that was fleetingly listed on eBay by everyone's "favourite" seller? I hate to think how little he would have paid the widow of said collector for such a valuable rarety. Quote
Coinery Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I know somebody who has an uncirculated set of E7 halfcrowns (with the history to go with it)! By all accounts has ALL the HC's from early-milled to-date! Quote
Nick Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 I know somebody who has an uncirculated set of E7 halfcrowns (with the history to go with it)! By all accounts has ALL the HC's from early-milled to-date! Wow. That's something that us lesser mortals can only dream about. Quote
Nick Posted January 9, 2014 Author Posted January 9, 2014 Funnily enuff it was offered to me By MP, or the previous owner? Even with the field disturbance behind Ed's head, it's still the best 1905 halfcrown that I've seen. Quote
Peckris Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Funnily enuff it was offered to meBy MP, or the previous owner? Even with the field disturbance behind Ed's head, it's still the best 1905 halfcrown that I've seen.But £12,000??? That makes it the rarest halfcrown this side of 1952. (I mean, the other side of 1952.. well, you know what I meant ). I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by silly prices anymore really. Quote
Coinery Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I know somebody who has an uncirculated set of E7 halfcrowns (with the history to go with it)! By all accounts has ALL the HC's from early-milled to-date!Wow. That's something that us lesser mortals can only dream about.Needless to say it's the pride of his entire HC collection! He bought the complete set from an elderly family friend who was bequeathed them (along with other significant HC's) by a family member/collector who'd pulled them at the year of their issue!Fabulous story, and quite an asset, to say the least! I must press him for some images???? Quote
Paulus Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I know somebody who has an uncirculated set of E7 halfcrowns (with the history to go with it)! By all accounts has ALL the HC's from early-milled to-date!Wow. That's something that us lesser mortals can only dream about.Needless to say it's the pride of his entire HC collection! He bought the complete set from an elderly family friend who was bequeathed them (along with other significant HC's) by a family member/collector who'd pulled them at the year of their issue!Fabulous story, and quite an asset, to say the least! I must press him for some images????Yes please do! Quote
VickySilver Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Better collection than Colin Adams?That would be tough, I know of a few nicer bits as well from Victoria and later... Quote
NRP Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Funnily enuff it was offered to meBy MP, or the previous owner? Even with the field disturbance behind Ed's head, it's still the best 1905 halfcrown that I've seen.Yes by that said person!!!! Don't get me wrong it is a belter but they are not actually that rare compared to others!! I have had quite a few high grade 1905s over the last 10 years it is just a date that has been over hyped!!! An 1854 2/- is much much rArer in high grade!! Quote
AardHawk Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 An 1854 2/- is much much rArer in high grade!! And now the Chinese will be knocking these out as well. Quote
Peckris Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Funnily enuff it was offered to meBy MP, or the previous owner? Even with the field disturbance behind Ed's head, it's still the best 1905 halfcrown that I've seen.Yes by that said person!!!! Don't get me wrong it is a belter but they are not actually that rare compared to others!! I have had quite a few high grade 1905s over the last 10 years it is just a date that has been over hyped!!! An 1854 2/- is much much rArer in high grade!!I agree, speaking from my lowly position as one who used to deal in a minor way. But I've certainly heard of a few UNC 1905s in my time, enough to give the lie to that £12,000 price tag. I even once used to sell coins to one guy who claimed to have 2 of them, and was going to bequeath them to his grandchildren. Unfortunately I never saw photographic proof, but then I didn't ask for it. Quote
copper123 Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Mp again Feel the love people feel the love Quote
VickySilver Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ah yes, but demand is there! If those Gothics can go for USD 50k in their plentitude (!), then demand can drive the '05 up. Econ 1 pounded those supply-demand curves into my head... Quote
Coinery Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ah yes, but demand is there! If those Gothics can go for USD 50k in their plentitude (!), then demand can drive the '05 up. Econ 1 pounded those supply-demand curves into my head...Totally agree! Whatever the rarity level, it's an iconic Halfcrown in the collectability stakes! Quote
Peckris Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Ah yes, but demand is there! If those Gothics can go for USD 50k in their plentitude (!), then demand can drive the '05 up. Econ 1 pounded those supply-demand curves into my head...Totally agree! Whatever the rarity level, it's an iconic Halfcrown in the collectability stakes!You mean, like the 1951 penny was in the late 60s and 70s? Quote
VickySilver Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Well certainly better than the 1887-93 5 sovs going for 25-40k!!!I think we might perhaps agree that a magnificent '05 has a bit on the lowly '51 penny??It really brings to point this bit I do not understand about today's apparent market: how is an 1823 2 sov, or the seemingly endless supply of W4 and G4 patterns and proofs able to hold their value. They may be ??scarce but seemingly are offered and so many venues and so often that they are certainly not difficult to come by if you have the money. Or for that matter, the numbers of Cromwell bits or Charles II broads and multi-broads? Or the above-mentioned Gothic Crowns?How about the 1831 Crown in proof at 10-12k quid? IMO lunacy of an order far worse than the '05 2/6 are these bits.... Quote
Peckris Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Well certainly better than the 1887-93 5 sovs going for 25-40k!!!I think we might perhaps agree that a magnificent '05 has a bit on the lowly '51 penny??It really brings to point this bit I do not understand about today's apparent market: how is an 1823 2 sov, or the seemingly endless supply of W4 and G4 patterns and proofs able to hold their value. They may be ??scarce but seemingly are offered and so many venues and so often that they are certainly not difficult to come by if you have the money. Or for that matter, the numbers of Cromwell bits or Charles II broads and multi-broads? Or the above-mentioned Gothic Crowns?How about the 1831 Crown in proof at 10-12k quid? IMO lunacy of an order far worse than the '05 2/6 are these bits....I used to dream about William IV (proof-only) crowns as a schoolboy collector, and nothing's changed. It's news to me that they are plentiful! Quote
VickySilver Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) No, they are just seemingly always available. There is two in one of the Sales on about now in Nuevo Yorke (ha ha, New York). In the last 5 years I have probably seen at least 6- 8 sales. The 1825 and 1826 proofs on up through gold are similarly available now and nearly always.OVERRATED!Another famous example is the 1913 US Five Cents Liberty Head with a mintage of FIVE, and only three in private hands. Never mind these three have been making the rounds and been on sale at least 4 times in the same number of years. Edited January 11, 2014 by VickySilver Quote
Peckris Posted January 11, 2014 Posted January 11, 2014 No, they are just seemingly always available. There is two in one of the Sales on about now in Nuevo Yorke (ha ha, New York). In the last 5 years I have probably seen at least 6- 8 sales. The 1825 and 1826 proofs on up through gold are similarly available now and nearly always.OVERRATED!You're quite right. I just checked and London Coins have sold 5 in the last 10 years, Coinage of England have one, and those 2 in New York (Heritage? they have one), plus a variety has been through Paul Fraser's hands. And that's just the first page! Quote
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