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[Asumel]

I live very close to the sea ( lucky me right :/ ) and with a lot of posts recently about toning and "the dreaded verd" I was wondering whether or not people had any thought and information on the effects living by the sea would have on toning ect of the coins?

[jaggy]

I think it depends how you keep them. My coins are kept in a fairly heavy duty safe and I place a container of this stuff called 'Damp Rid' in the safe to suck any excess moisture out of the air.

[Asumel]

they aren't in a moist environment the house is quite dry, but there is no extra anti moisture stuff in their storage cases. I had considered at some point adding silica gel packets around the containers but wasn't sure if they were stable enough to do so. Then again there is quite a bit of salt in the air around Plymouth so... well I don't know :?

[Peckris]

they aren't in a moist environment the house is quite dry, but there is no extra anti moisture stuff in their storage cases. I had considered at some point adding silica gel packets around the containers but wasn't sure if they were stable enough to do so. Then again there is quite a bit of salt in the air around Plymouth so... well I don't know :?

Yeah, you do need to watch out for salt air. Silica gel is fine for moisture (though you need to chase the moisture out of them at regular intervals), but I'm not sure what you should do about the salt air. But if you're not right by the sea, it's probably much less of a factor.

[Paulus]

they aren't in a moist environment the house is quite dry, but there is no extra anti moisture stuff in their storage cases. I had considered at some point adding silica gel packets around the containers but wasn't sure if they were stable enough to do so. Then again there is quite a bit of salt in the air around Plymouth so... well I don't know :?

Yeah, you do need to watch out for salt air. Silica gel is fine for moisture (though you need to chase the moisture out of them at regular intervals), but I'm not sure what you should do about the salt air. But if you're not right by the sea, it's probably much less of a factor.

I seem to remember Coinery saying he had some unwelcome seaside-related experiences with his coins? Stuart, what's your take?

[Asumel]

they aren't in a moist environment the house is quite dry, but there is no extra anti moisture stuff in their storage cases. I had considered at some point adding silica gel packets around the containers but wasn't sure if they were stable enough to do so. Then again there is quite a bit of salt in the air around Plymouth so... well I don't know :?

Yeah, you do need to watch out for salt air. Silica gel is fine for moisture (though you need to chase the moisture out of them at regular intervals), but I'm not sure what you should do about the salt air. But if you're not right by the sea, it's probably much less of a factor.

I'm about 100m from the sea front, blocked by another row of houses but still the proximity doesn't help. I have picked up silver and gold from under the sea with little effect on the piece ( though they were never going to be F/GF coins) its the copper and other "rust-able" items that i was thinking about?

[Peter]

I can understand your concern regarding salt in the air.

However if it was that bad everyone on the coast would die early because of high BP etc.

The same could be said of industrial areas or wetter areas .

A centrally heated house with coins stored within the property and not against external walls is probably the best bet.

Common sense should prevail.

[Asumel]

I can understand your concern regarding salt in the air.

However if it was that bad everyone on the coast would die early because of high BP etc.

The same could be said of industrial areas or wetter areas .

A centrally heated house with coins stored within the property and not against external walls is probably the best bet.

Common sense should prevail.

The concern arises for the fact that new parts on my car get rusted out quicker than they ever have.

what do you mean by BP?

yes i thought as much, with the common sense, it fixes most things

[Peter]

BP = Blood Pressure...the silent killer...salt is a no no(that is why salt content is indicated on many foodstuffs)

As long as your coins are not kept next to your car should be OK.

Rain will obviously contain a high salt content hence the rust on your car.

[Asumel]

BP = Blood Pressure...the silent killer...salt is a no no(that is why salt content is indicated on many foodstuffs)

As long as your coins are not kept next to your car should be OK.

Rain will obviously contain a high salt content hence the rust on your car.

Christ I'm awful with the acronyms :/ I don't know why I didn't get that

just wondered if anyone had found they reacted differently/badly near the sea

[Peter]

Off the top of my head dealers by the coast.

Saltford Bristol

Peter Ireland Blackpool

Dorset Coin Co Poole

I'm sure there are many more.

[Sword]

BP = Blood Pressure...the silent killer...salt is a no no(that is why salt content is indicated on many foodstuffs)

As long as your coins are not kept next to your car should be OK.

Rain will obviously contain a high salt content hence the rust on your car.

Christ I'm awful with the acronyms :/ I don't know why I didn't get that

just wondered if anyone had found they reacted differently/badly near the sea

I used to live near the sea as a kid (about 100m or so away) and I don't remember any problem with my silver coins.

I agree with Peter.

Salts can disssolve in invisible water droplets in air and contribute to corrosion of objects near the sea. However, unless you feel inclined to enjoy your collection on the beach or outside your beach hut, I don't think there is much risk.

[Coinery]

Off the top of my head dealers by the coast.

Saltford Bristol

Peter Ireland Blackpool

Dorset Coin Co Poole

I'm sure there are many more.

I used to live a mile from Saltford, it's miles from the coast! It's as close to Bath as Bristol

Having lived on a cliff, overlooking the estuary, I can confirm that coins tone extremely quickly if left unsealed! I bought my wife a vicky halfcrown brooch, which went from blue to black in the space of 4 SUMMER months! We were living in a caravan at the time and had the doors and windows open a lot! Breath in that fresh see air, that was our policy! I wouldn't have kept my collection in that space, though!

I should perhaps add, there were probably a great deal less other pollutants in the air on that cliff, and lord knows what all of those little nasties can do to our coins?

[Sword]

Sounds like a good spot to tone cleaned / polished coins!

[Benny who]

The two pictures below are of a coin that was kept by the sea,I had others from the same source that showed similar problems,however this isn't conclusive and could be due to other factors.

All the coins had the same powdery blue green on them,however this could be washed (or dissolved) using acetate,to leave not so much a duller finish rather than a matt finish were the toning had been slightly removed.There where other coins that had a mottled toning which looked really good.I have not seen any return on the coins I still have.

As far as I know the sea water speeds up the reaction,The Sodium Chloride forms Copper Chloride,Hydrogen and worst of all Sodium Hydroxide,which is a very strong Base.The Sodium Hydroxide causes the pitting.I am not sure about Copper coin as the ones I had were all Silver.

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[Benny who]

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[Nick]

[Benny who]

Thank you Nick,could not for the life of me get the pictures to upload or edit.