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in case anyone is interested in Tokens ;)

I found these fabulous items on the German eBay web page:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/221453287463?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.de/itm/221453290100?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

These tokens are not within my focus (and I am not the seller)

Cheers

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Interesting token, what did W Williams of London deal in ?

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Interesting token, what did W Williams of London deal in ?

William Williams’ London (Middlesex) copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1795. Obverse: The arms of the City of London with legend: “FEAR GOD AND HONOUR THE KING 1795”. Reverse: A portcullis surmounted by the Prince of Wales’ crest with legend: “W. WILLIAMS LONDON”, “RENDER TO CAESAR THE THINGS THAT ARE CAESAR’S”. Plain edge. Issued by William Williams who was originally a grinder and latterly a button manufacturer with a business at 103 St. Martin’s Lane, Charing Cross, London. It is thought he was Welsh by the inclusion of the Prince of Wales’ crest.

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I had one of those which sold for Pence..funny old world.

I bought a gun money shilling from a dealer who sold a bloody Puffin coin for x 3.

I still sweep Euro and US sites...which haven't got a clue....my other hunting ground is the Midland.

Trouble is I take the family and Dinner and Breckie plus they insist on a hotel with pool.

The Lada only does 22mpg :rolleyes:

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Interesting token, what did W Williams of London deal in ?

William Williams’ London (Middlesex) copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1795. Obverse: The arms of the City of London with legend: “FEAR GOD AND HONOUR THE KING 1795”. Reverse: A portcullis surmounted by the Prince of Wales’ crest with legend: “W. WILLIAMS LONDON”, “RENDER TO CAESAR THE THINGS THAT ARE CAESAR’S”. Plain edge. Issued by William Williams who was originally a grinder and latterly a button manufacturer with a business at 103 St. Martin’s Lane, Charing Cross, London. It is thought he was Welsh by the inclusion of the Prince of Wales’ crest.

I wonder if it's also a subliminal message to the future George IV, Prince of Wales in 1795 and already a 'bad sort'? HONOUR THE KING and RENDER TO CAESAR seems like a pretty clear advice for a wayward Prince.

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Interesting token, what did W Williams of London deal in ?

William Williams’ London (Middlesex) copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1795. Obverse: The arms of the City of London with legend: “FEAR GOD AND HONOUR THE KING 1795”. Reverse: A portcullis surmounted by the Prince of Wales’ crest with legend: “W. WILLIAMS LONDON”, “RENDER TO CAESAR THE THINGS THAT ARE CAESAR’S”. Plain edge. Issued by William Williams who was originally a grinder and latterly a button manufacturer with a business at 103 St. Martin’s Lane, Charing Cross, London. It is thought he was Welsh by the inclusion of the Prince of Wales’ crest.

I wonder if it's also a subliminal message to the future George IV, Prince of Wales in 1795 and already a 'bad sort'? HONOUR THE KING and RENDER TO CAESAR seems like a pretty clear advice for a wayward Prince.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour

1765-1795...4o years wonder when the word honvor first appear in token,i think it is british word,not latin or french like honor.

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Interesting token, what did W Williams of London deal in ?

William Williams’ London (Middlesex) copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1795. Obverse: The arms of the City of London with legend: “FEAR GOD AND HONOUR THE KING 1795”. Reverse: A portcullis surmounted by the Prince of Wales’ crest with legend: “W. WILLIAMS LONDON”, “RENDER TO CAESAR THE THINGS THAT ARE CAESAR’S”. Plain edge. Issued by William Williams who was originally a grinder and latterly a button manufacturer with a business at 103 St. Martin’s Lane, Charing Cross, London. It is thought he was Welsh by the inclusion of the Prince of Wales’ crest.

I wonder if it's also a subliminal message to the future George IV, Prince of Wales in 1795 and already a 'bad sort'? HONOUR THE KING and RENDER TO CAESAR seems like a pretty clear advice for a wayward Prince.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour

1765-1795...4o years wonder when the word honvor first appear in token,i think it is british word,not latin or french like honor.

Not a 'British' word, more a Norman medieval scribes' word, as they tried to make sense of marrying a basically Latin/French system of words to an existing Anglo-Saxon (Germanic/Norse) system.

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Interesting token, what did W Williams of London deal in ?

William Williams’ London (Middlesex) copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1795. Obverse: The arms of the City of London with legend: “FEAR GOD AND HONOUR THE KING 1795”. Reverse: A portcullis surmounted by the Prince of Wales’ crest with legend: “W. WILLIAMS LONDON”, “RENDER TO CAESAR THE THINGS THAT ARE CAESAR’S”. Plain edge. Issued by William Williams who was originally a grinder and latterly a button manufacturer with a business at 103 St. Martin’s Lane, Charing Cross, London. It is thought he was Welsh by the inclusion of the Prince of Wales’ crest.

I wonder if it's also a subliminal message to the future George IV, Prince of Wales in 1795 and already a 'bad sort'? HONOUR THE KING and RENDER TO CAESAR seems like a pretty clear advice for a wayward Prince.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour

1765-1795...4o years wonder when the word honvor first appear in token,i think it is british word,not latin or french like honor.

Not a 'British' word, more a Norman medieval scribes' word, as they tried to make sense of marrying a basically Latin/French system of words to an existing Anglo-Saxon (Germanic/Norse) system.

Thanks for the lead,that mvst be one episode or program on start of early english langvage,good history...that far thanks.

http://en.wikipedia....nglish_language

Nice token.

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I photographed a few coins for a good friend, and this one was among them. It's a lovely lustrous early US half cent.

1832_Half_Cent_composite_white_zps8b54ad

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Brandon

That could have a home at Peter Towers.

It would tick the box on half cents.

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Ill give nearest coin to face... farthing do?

Ooh no, that BU 1874H both Gs over might be worth hanging on to..?

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Ill give nearest coin to face... farthing do?

I wish that half cent were mine. It was only visiting me for a couple days for photographs. It's a bit out of my normal coin budget range for the $1,500-2,000 or so it goes for nowadays in that grade. :blink:

The competition for nice USA early copper is vicious -- I'll stick with the esoteric private token issues and other non-USA copper -- where I can still get a nearly-FDC example for $250 from the 1790s. :)

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yea, I was surprised when looking up those tokens at the prices asked.

Don't think I have a half cent,although only realistic place is Ebay, and the Americans buy up all the decent stuff, its like getting Russian coinage.

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Horses for courses as said before. If you want something badly enough you will save the money elsewhere, dig deep and take the plunge.

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I finally added the 1852 and 1854 Upper Canada halfpennies to my collection. Still looking for a nice example of the 1850. These match nicely the 1857 halfpenny I picked up last year. Having only been issued for 4 years, it's a nice small set of halfpennies I hope to complete.

1852_UpperCanada_HalfPenny_NGC_MS64BN_co

1854_UpperCanada_Halfpenny_NGC_MS63BN_co

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Goodness, beautiful and stunning !

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A nice cupric Duit 1746 (coat of arms of the Province of Holland) issued by the Dutch East India Company. Found that coin for 2 Euro a few years ago...

01Duit1746-Holland_zpse083b881.jpg

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Picked up this 1919 penny. Sorry for the quality of the pictures -- the slab is scratched all to heck.

1919_UK_1Penny_NGC_MS64BN_composite_no_l

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Luxembourg 10 Centimes 1865 has been imported by traders into & used in the United Kingdom as Penny tokens alike the so called French Pennies.

10Centimes1865_zpsbb516900.jpg

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