brg5658 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) And two more from the same source (just finished photographing them). The Anglesey - Druid Parys Mine Company pieces were the very first tokens to surface in 1787 (as pennies), and the quality and usefulness of them was quickly recognized. The Wikipedia Article has more information on these (and pictures another Druid token that is in my collection -- I try to contribute images to WIkipedia when I can).Below is one of my all time favorite numismatic items. It is listed as "Scarce" in Dalton and Hamer with an estimated production of likely between 200-300 pieces (possibly as many as 400). This example below is my 4th example in uncirculated condition. I have a bit of a hoard going... Edited April 7, 2014 by brg5658 1 Quote
Peckris Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 A new 1790 Conder (provincial) halfpenny token. Interesting clash on the obverse around the date, and the detail of the engraving is just stunning. I also love the toning on the reverse of the token, lovely hints of original red and some mellowing. I'm also attaching a close up image of some of the obverse detail of the reclining shepherd. One would like to feel, Dudley being not far from the Soho Works, that M. Boulton had at least a hand in this one. Could 'JAMES' on the reverse refer to Mr Watt, I wonder? Quote
brg5658 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Posted April 7, 2014 A new 1790 Conder (provincial) halfpenny token. Interesting clash on the obverse around the date, and the detail of the engraving is just stunning. I also love the toning on the reverse of the token, lovely hints of original red and some mellowing. I'm also attaching a close up image of some of the obverse detail of the reclining shepherd. One would like to feel, Dudley being not far from the Soho Works, that M. Boulton had at least a hand in this one. Could 'JAMES' on the reverse refer to Mr Watt, I wonder?Nope, it has nothing to do with either Boulton or Watt. The token was designed and manufactured by Charles James in London. Quote
Garrett Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Very nice tokens BRG. But how come St George is always slaying a little dragon ?? ha ha Quote
scott Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 if you are going to make a coin die... at least put the As and V's on the correct side >.>and a regional coronation medal (and yes I know exactly where) Quote
brg5658 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 Not British, but I have always liked this Italian design: Quote
Peckris Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 i'll just throw this inDammit scott, you should have been Ernie Wise.. Quote
Asumel Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Some Pennies I was given by a friend, I'm not really hot on varieties ect so if you do notice one please let me know :/ Edited May 11, 2014 by Asumel Quote
Asumel Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Sorry to say they are all scrap coins.Really? I know there is wear on them but I didn't think there was enough to call them scrap coins? Quote
Peckris Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Sorry to say they are all scrap coins.Really? I know there is wear on them but I didn't think there was enough to call them scrap coins?If pulled from change in the 1960s, they would all be roughly in that condition, and would have been described then as "average circulated". Sorry. Quote
Asumel Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Sorry to say they are all scrap coins.Really? I know there is wear on them but I didn't think there was enough to call them scrap coins?If pulled from change in the 1960s, they would all be roughly in that condition, and would have been described then as "average circulated". Sorry.Ah well, they were a gift and fill the gaps in a very small collection. I was quite excited about them, a little less now :/ Quote
Peckris Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Sorry to say they are all scrap coins.Really? I know there is wear on them but I didn't think there was enough to call them scrap coins?If pulled from change in the 1960s, they would all be roughly in that condition, and would have been described then as "average circulated". Sorry.Ah well, they were a gift and fill the gaps in a very small collection. I was quite excited about them, a little less now :/Awww. Well, if it's any consolation at all, we've all been there. All of us. No exceptions. I remember when I got my first UNC George V coin, I was so so pleased with it (still am, still got it ). So I make the toast to you that all coin collectors are happy to hear : a long life and happy collecting. 1 Quote
Asumel Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 Sorry to say they are all scrap coins.Really? I know there is wear on them but I didn't think there was enough to call them scrap coins?If pulled from change in the 1960s, they would all be roughly in that condition, and would have been described then as "average circulated". Sorry.Ah well, they were a gift and fill the gaps in a very small collection. I was quite excited about them, a little less now :/Awww. Well, if it's any consolation at all, we've all been there. All of us. No exceptions. I remember when I got my first UNC George V coin, I was so so pleased with it (still am, still got it ). So I make the toast to you that all coin collectors are happy to hear : a long life and happy collecting.Thanks, I have regained my excitement for them as I have been adding them to the collection, they are, as many have said on here " the best examples you can afford" (being free and me being poor currently). I look forward to upgrading them when I get the chance to.I do have to pose a question, I could be wrong with this but surely even low grade coins such as these shouldn't be considered scrap? Surely, like with me they are of value to people are starting off and received them from friends and relatives to start their collection, as incentives for the hobby and upgrading eventually? Quote
Nordle11 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 I think what was meant by scrap was that the cost of them is equal too, if not lower than scrap "value" as opposed to being worthless chunks of metal that are no use to anyone.What you have are nice but inexpensive coins, but don't let that detract from it - Peck makes an excellent point here. Quote
Asumel Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 I think what was meant by scrap was that the cost of them is equal too, if not lower than scrap "value" as opposed to being worthless chunks of metal that are no use to anyone.What you have are nice but inexpensive coins, but don't let that detract from it - Peck makes an excellent point here.Ah I see, that was my misunderstanding there Quote
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