Coinery Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 For a date that's thought to be easy or common, I am surprised at how few 'smart' unblemished UNCs there are, especially the farthing for the bronzes!Also, type 1901 shilling into eBay...nothing to write home about!The dealer sites also corroborate my suspicion that 1901is no longer the poor man's Victoria type set!Anyone got an UNC 1901 farthing for sale without blotches or spots? I'm in the market for one! Quote
copper123 Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 I have I bought it seven years ago for the princely sum of £1.50.Lovely and black with that gleam that tells you it would be unc but for the mint darkened finish Quote
TomGoodheart Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) For a date that's thought to be easy or common, I am surprised at how few 'smart' unblemished UNCs there are, especially the farthing for the bronzes!Also, type 1901 shilling into eBay...nothing to write home about!The dealer sites also corroborate my suspicion that 1901is no longer the poor man's Victoria type set!Anyone got an UNC 1901 farthing for sale without blotches or spots? I'm in the market for one! Hmm .. an interesting challenge! Best I can do on a quick search. Not really perfect, is it? Edited April 11, 2013 by TomGoodheart Quote
Coinery Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 I have I bought it seven years ago for the princely sum of £1.50.Lovely and black with that gleam that tells you it would be unc but for the mint darkened finishI have two E7's with that mother-of-pearl-'black' you get with an UNC mint-darkened bronze! Quote
Coinery Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 For a date that's thought to be easy or common, I am surprised at how few 'smart' unblemished UNCs there are, especially the farthing for the bronzes!Also, type 1901 shilling into eBay...nothing to write home about!The dealer sites also corroborate my suspicion that 1901is no longer the poor man's Victoria type set!Anyone got an UNC 1901 farthing for sale without blotches or spots? I'm in the market for one! Hmm .. an interesting challenge! Best I can do on a quick search. Not really perfect, is it? It's not what you'd expect, really, I was surprised at the lack of quality for a supposedly easy date! What spurred it was Dave's beautiful Old Head coin, recently posted on the forum, and my landing a nice 1901 HP last month. I suddenly thought I'd put together a 1901 UNC type-set, to include the gold, thinking UNC's the only option for 1901, but not so sure now?I obviously want to snipe the set cheap from eBay and/or the big Houses, but would certainly pay top dollar for a farthing, just to see if they really are out there.Makes me wonder whether the Old Head coinage is seriously underrated? Quote
Rob Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 You get proof-like halfpennies. Well worth a premium. Quote
Coinery Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 You get proof-like halfpennies. Well worth a premium. Know anyone, Rob? I'll have one if you do? Quote
Coinery Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 Anyone got an UNC 1901 farthing for sale without blotches or spots? I'm in the market for one! Sorted on the farthing! Quote
Peter Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I have I bought it seven years ago for the princely sum of £1.50.Lovely and black with that gleam that tells you it would be unc but for the mint darkened finishI paid 10p for my UNC but that was 30 years ago. Quote
Rob Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 You get proof-like halfpennies. Well worth a premium. Know anyone, Rob? I'll have one if you do? Me. Not for sale, but I paid £50-60 for it a few years ago. Quote
Colin G. Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 You get proof-like halfpennies. Well worth a premium. You get the same with 1895 OH farthings, bright finish but there are some really nice proof-like examples out there. Quote
Peter Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 You get proof-like halfpennies. Well worth a premium. You get the same with 1895 OH farthings, bright finish but there are some really nice proof-like examples out there.I managed to get a BU example many years ago (pre internet)I must look at it tonight. Quote
Peckris Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 The usual crappy blow-up in Photoshop (even that king of software apps can't increase the size 3-fold without making it look horrible), but apart from what looks like a couple of tiny carbon spots, here's mine: Quote
Nick Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 For a date that's thought to be easy or common, I am surprised at how few 'smart' unblemished UNCs there are, especially the farthing for the bronzes!Also, type 1901 shilling into eBay...nothing to write home about!The dealer sites also corroborate my suspicion that 1901is no longer the poor man's Victoria type set!Anyone got an UNC 1901 farthing for sale without blotches or spots? I'm in the market for one! 1901 shillings aren't easy to find in high grade, nor are 1898. Quote
copper123 Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I have I bought it seven years ago for the princely sum of £1.50.Lovely and black with that gleam that tells you it would be unc but for the mint darkened finishI paid 10p for my UNC but that was 30 years ago. Damm ! I was really ripped off!!!!!! Quote
Coinery Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 The usual crappy blow-up in Photoshop (even that king of software apps can't increase the size 3-fold without making it look horrible), but apart from what looks like a couple of tiny carbon spots, here's mine:Really pretty little series, I never paid it too much attention before! Quote
Coinery Posted April 12, 2013 Author Posted April 12, 2013 For a date that's thought to be easy or common, I am surprised at how few 'smart' unblemished UNCs there are, especially the farthing for the bronzes!Also, type 1901 shilling into eBay...nothing to write home about!1901 shillings aren't easy to find in high grade, nor are 1898.It's odd isn't it, as the price-guides would have you believe otherwise! Having a quick scout around, revealed nothing in UNC across the web either! Quote
copper123 Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 Going back to the original subject - the farthing , Victoria old head I am very sure these coins become more common in the higher grades the nearer you get to the end of Victoria's reignI have only ever had to wait to get two high grade dates 1895 and 1896 , I am quite sure that 1895 is the scarcest coin of the whole series, though 1896 runs it close.It always appears that the public hoarded many farthings , even the relatively unattractive dark ones , unlike the penny and halfpennies which never seemed to get a look in for some strange reason - even today a find of a small tobacco box full of Victorian and Edwardian farthings some in near mint grade (usually the later ones) is something that every dealer comes across three or four time in his lifetime Quote
Peckris Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 For a date that's thought to be easy or common, I am surprised at how few 'smart' unblemished UNCs there are, especially the farthing for the bronzes!Also, type 1901 shilling into eBay...nothing to write home about!1901 shillings aren't easy to find in high grade, nor are 1898.It's odd isn't it, as the price-guides would have you believe otherwise! Having a quick scout around, revealed nothing in UNC across the web either!I just checked my collection, thinking I had one : turns out it's a 1900. Checking in Spink, it seems that none of the 1901 silver is rated lower/commoner than earlier dates.Going back to the original subject - the farthing , Victoria old head I am very sure these coins become more common in the higher grades the nearer you get to the end of Victoria's reignI have only ever had to wait to get two high grade dates 1895 and 1896 , I am quite sure that 1895 is the scarcest coin of the whole series, though 1896 runs it close.It always appears that the public hoarded many farthings , even the relatively unattractive dark ones , unlike the penny and halfpennies which never seemed to get a look in for some strange reason - even today a find of a small tobacco box full of Victorian and Edwardian farthings some in near mint grade (usually the later ones) is something that every dealer comes across three or four time in his lifetimeWell, I'd argue against the rich dark purplish 'Mint toning' as being unattractive - but for years the 1901 values for bronze were way behind the earlier dates (akin to 1936). I think the general public put the bronze issues aside as keepsakes, considering Victoria had been the longest reigning monarch. Certainly, in my days dealing in the 1990s, 1901 pennies in high grade were incredibly common Quote
Coinery Posted April 13, 2013 Author Posted April 13, 2013 It's odd isn't it, as the price-guides would have you believe otherwise! Having a quick scout around, revealed nothing in UNC across the web either!I just checked my collection, thinking I had one : turns out it's a 1900. Checking in Spink, it seems that none of the 1901 silver is rated lower/commoner than earlier dates.I should have been clearer. What I meant was, comparing the 1901 to Victorian shillings in general, with exception of the 1887, 1893 and 1897, it's price in Spinks would suggest an UNC would be an easyish find. Quote
Peckris Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 It's odd isn't it, as the price-guides would have you believe otherwise! Having a quick scout around, revealed nothing in UNC across the web either!I just checked my collection, thinking I had one : turns out it's a 1900. Checking in Spink, it seems that none of the 1901 silver is rated lower/commoner than earlier dates.I should have been clearer. What I meant was, comparing the 1901 to Victorian shillings in general, with exception of the 1887, 1893 and 1897, it's price in Spinks would suggest an UNC would be an easyish find.I was actually replying to Nick's point about them being not easy to find in high grade. Spink seems to concur - it isn't an 'easy' date unlike the bronze (but not MORE difficult than earlier) Quote
Coinery Posted April 13, 2013 Author Posted April 13, 2013 It's odd isn't it, as the price-guides would have you believe otherwise! Having a quick scout around, revealed nothing in UNC across the web either!I just checked my collection, thinking I had one : turns out it's a 1900. Checking in Spink, it seems that none of the 1901 silver is rated lower/commoner than earlier dates.I should have been clearer. What I meant was, comparing the 1901 to Victorian shillings in general, with exception of the 1887, 1893 and 1897, it's price in Spinks would suggest an UNC would be an easyish find.I was actually replying to Nick's point about them being not easy to find in high grade. Spink seems to concur - it isn't an 'easy' date unlike the bronze (but not MORE difficult than earlier)Oh, dear, and I can't even blame the iPhone for not reading it properly, not this time! Maybe they are viewed in the same light as the 1902 or the 1936, and nobody is bothering to pick them up, as I can't find anything Top Grade displaying on the 'net or on any of our dealers' websites. If anybody spots a non-Heritage one, I'd appreciate the nod! Quote
Gary D Posted April 13, 2013 Posted April 13, 2013 It's odd isn't it, as the price-guides would have you believe otherwise! Having a quick scout around, revealed nothing in UNC across the web either!I just checked my collection, thinking I had one : turns out it's a 1900. Checking in Spink, it seems that none of the 1901 silver is rated lower/commoner than earlier dates.I should have been clearer. What I meant was, comparing the 1901 to Victorian shillings in general, with exception of the 1887, 1893 and 1897, it's price in Spinks would suggest an UNC would be an easyish find.In truly UNC most coins are very difficult. There have been several very high grade 1901 shillings go through ebay in the last few weeks. If they were truly UNC well that's the question though.I was actually replying to Nick's point about them being not easy to find in high grade. Spink seems to concur - it isn't an 'easy' date unlike the bronze (but not MORE difficult than earlier)Oh, dear, and I can't even blame the iPhone for not reading it properly, not this time! Maybe they are viewed in the same light as the 1902 or the 1936, and nobody is bothering to pick them up, as I can't find anything Top Grade displaying on the 'net or on any of our dealers' websites. If anybody spots a non-Heritage one, I'd appreciate the nod! Quote
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