VickySilver Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Anybody bid in the just-closed Heritage Auction Sales?Some high prices but friend of mine got the 1889 Small Head shilling - Wow! Nicest I have seen ever. Seemed like there was a concentration on high grade material versus absolute rarity, last example excepted. Quote
azda Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Heritage i find a little pricey. Bidding usually STARTS at spink book for grade. I have however spotted an 1850/46 shilling in a graded NGC holder at VF30, to me its less than VF Quote
1949threepence Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Anybody bid in the just-closed Heritage Auction Sales?Some high prices but friend of mine got the 1889 Small Head shilling - Wow! Nicest I have seen ever. Seemed like there was a concentration on high grade material versus absolute rarity, last example excepted.They are very expensive ~ I'd only bid on a Heritage item if it was something I really wanted and had long been unable to get elsewhere. Edited January 17, 2013 by 1949threepence Quote
RLC35 Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Anybody bid in the just-closed Heritage Auction Sales?Some high prices but friend of mine got the 1889 Small Head shilling - Wow! Nicest I have seen ever. Seemed like there was a concentration on high grade material versus absolute rarity, last example excepted.They are very expensive ~ I'd only bid on a Heritage item if it was something I really wanted and had long been unable to get elsewhere.Michael, I bid the 1860/59 up to $7,750, but was underbidder to the winner at $8000 (w/Premium $9,400). That was my limit! I have one in AEF, but I wanted this one in UNC. Quote
Rob Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Anybody bid in the just-closed Heritage Auction Sales?Some high prices but friend of mine got the 1889 Small Head shilling - Wow! Nicest I have seen ever. Seemed like there was a concentration on high grade material versus absolute rarity, last example excepted.They are very expensive ~ I'd only bid on a Heritage item if it was something I really wanted and had long been unable to get elsewhere.Keep your eyes open and you can get lucky because they do attract decent quality. It also provides a sales outlet for those ex-pat coins that have passed through auctions that were previously off the radar until the internet. In 2006 I bought the (unique?)F689A in an incorrect slab which had been in the US since the Freeman sale in 1984. Quote
VickySilver Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 IMO, the price on the 1889 small head shilling was a good one for that sort of top shelf quality. The second session without floor auction has been known to offer up the odd bargain. Perhaps Rob knows of a finer specimen? I definately do not.RLC, I really feel for you on the 60/59 but perhaps it is not in strong hands and will re-emerge - I have noticed this to happen on occasion.I too think that the prices fetched for some of the "condition rarities" were rather high... Quote
argentumandcoins Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) I only bought one of the halfcrowns and missed out on quite a few others. The one I won was a 1689 in a slab and listed as ESC506. Interesting thought I, being as though it is a second shield rather than the first. They had another that they had as 507 that is also a second shield. I think they were slabbed by PCGS (Pretty Crap Grading Services) Edited January 18, 2013 by argentumandcoins Quote
RLC35 Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 John,PCGS is the same grading company that mis-identified a 1860 Farthing Mule, a while back (that was purchased on eBay by a Forum Member), then came on the Forum and tried unsuccessfully defend their ID! I haven't cared for PCGS since that issue was left unresolved! Quote
1949threepence Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Anybody bid in the just-closed Heritage Auction Sales?Some high prices but friend of mine got the 1889 Small Head shilling - Wow! Nicest I have seen ever. Seemed like there was a concentration on high grade material versus absolute rarity, last example excepted.They are very expensive ~ I'd only bid on a Heritage item if it was something I really wanted and had long been unable to get elsewhere.Michael, I bid the 1860/59 up to $7,750, but was underbidder to the winner at $8000 (w/Premium $9,400). That was my limit! I have one in AEF, but I wanted this one in UNC.Yes, Bob, I remember the 1860/59 you bought a couple of years or so back. I honestly didn't think that could be improved upon, but obviously there was an UNC specimen out there. As I recall, the overstrike was very obvious. Quote
argentumandcoins Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 John,PCGS is the same grading company that mis-identified a 1860 Farthing Mule, a while back (that was purchased on eBay by a Forum Member), then came on the Forum and tried unsuccessfully defend their ID! I haven't cared for PCGS since that issue was left unresolved!OOOOPS, mistake on my part. I have checked the tomb and this one has been mis-identified by NGC (Not Grading Correctly). It seems they can all mess up equally as badly as each other Bob. Quote
Rob Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 John,PCGS is the same grading company that mis-identified a 1860 Farthing Mule, a while back (that was purchased on eBay by a Forum Member), then came on the Forum and tried unsuccessfully defend their ID! I haven't cared for PCGS since that issue was left unresolved!OOOOPS, mistake on my part. I have checked the tomb and this one has been mis-identified by NGC (Not Grading Correctly). It seems they can all mess up equally as badly as each other Bob.NGC have the edge over PCGS for mis-attributions. Quote
Accumulator Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 Anybody bid in the just-closed Heritage Auction Sales?Some high prices but friend of mine got the 1889 Small Head shilling - Wow! Nicest I have seen ever. Seemed like there was a concentration on high grade material versus absolute rarity, last example excepted.They are very expensive ~ I'd only bid on a Heritage item if it was something I really wanted and had long been unable to get elsewhere.Michael, I bid the 1860/59 up to $7,750, but was underbidder to the winner at $8000 (w/Premium $9,400). That was my limit! I have one in AEF, but I wanted this one in UNC.I looked enviously at this coin too, but it came up at the wrong time for me unfortunately. One day... Quote
VickySilver Posted January 18, 2013 Author Posted January 18, 2013 For now I think this quality will cost 10 k. USD. The two mentioned on these boards appear to be near the very top quality wise. EFs might drop the price in half. Quote
Nicholas Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 This coin if I recall had a nasty little scratch under the chin... Not unc as I recall. Quote
VickySilver Posted January 20, 2013 Author Posted January 20, 2013 Not sure if you mean the clash mark found on all that I've seen, including the other Colin Adams specimen we have talked about. That one is of course a mark of legitimacy. I would challenge the finding of significant wear marks of any circulation on the one just sold. Quote
1949threepence Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 For now I think this quality will cost 10 k. USD. The two mentioned on these boards appear to be near the very top quality wise. EFs might drop the price in half.The one that Heritage just sold, can be seen hereVery, very nice. Quote
Nicholas Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 on closer inspection only a clash die - superb coin. Quote
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