Peter Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Oh what a wastehttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-SUPERB-LUSTROUS-GEORGE-IV-1826-FARTHING-1-4d-LUCIDO-8-COINS-/251384555943?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3a87afe9a7This could of been a cracking coin if some idiot hadn't bashed and polished it. (Roman 1) Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Oh what a wastehttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A-SUPERB-LUSTROUS-GEORGE-IV-1826-FARTHING-1-4d-LUCIDO-8-COINS-/251384555943?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item3a87afe9a7 Quote
Coinery Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 That can't be genuine, surely?I'm not making any statement at all about authenticity, just that I have never seen the like of it before! I'm confused. When you say the like, do you mean the coinage/type or the appearance of the coin giving a certain impression?Yes, I did spot the confliction and nearly added an edit! For me the planchet remains too perfect, having an almost milled appearance! Just to re-contradict myself, I'm not making any authoritative statement about the authenticity of the coin, just that it doesn't sit comfortably with me, and is unlike any hammered coin I've seen before! That's all! I personally would not buy it from that image, regardless of the seller! It would really warrant an in-hand viewing! Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 Yes, I did spot the confliction and nearly added an edit! For me the planchet remains too perfect, having an almost milled appearance! Just to re-contradict myself, I'm not making any authoritative statement about the authenticity of the coin, just that it doesn't sit comfortably with me, and is unlike any hammered coin I've seen before! That's all! I personally would not buy it from that image, regardless of the seller! It would really warrant an in-hand viewing!Fair enough. It is worth noting that eBay has become a buyer's world to the extent that you are guaranteed a full refund if the item is not as described. I bought a penny for a sizeable sum on eBay recently whereby the seller had 'conveniently' forgot to describe a chip that the photographs 'conveniently' also didn't show due to some 'convenient' positioning of the camera. As such I was able to obtain a refund fairly easily against the seller's wishes. The same could be said for this coin if it did turn out to be fake upon further inspection in hand.There has been talk elsewhere online of this Burgred's patina being typical of a fake, but I'd like to illustrate one of mine which I feel exhibits a similar 'patina' and is genuine. Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 The item location of this penny implies that he has not yet dug it up. Quote
Rob Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 The item location of this penny implies that he has not yet dug it up.Yes, but the important question is whether it is a field in Northampton or Durham? Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Yes, but the important question is whether it is a field in Northampton or Durham? Quote
Coinery Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) I'm still not totally convinced that the scanner's the tool for the job! Edit: ooops! 221327649039 Edited December 1, 2013 by Coinery Quote
Coinery Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 And it's rare to get 4 images posted of a coin! 251393110339 Quote
Rob Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 And it's rare to get 4 images posted of a coin! 251393110339And you choose the reign with the greatest diversity of silver coinage denominations (Civil War oddities aside) - then go for the only one that doesn't exist. Doh. Quote
Coinery Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 And it's rare to get 4 images posted of a coin! 251393110339And you choose the reign with the greatest diversity of silver coinage denominations (Civil War oddities aside) - then go for the only one that doesn't exist. Doh.I'll bet they've given up on the lottery with that kind of statistical failing? Quote
HistoricCoinage Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 And it's rare to get 4 images posted of a coin! 251393110339I feel they show the coin from all angles. Nicely done! Quote
Peter Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 This is one ugly coin.Slabbing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-WASHINGTON-QUARTER-NGC-MS67-CAC-RAINBOW-2ND-FINEST-REGISTY-2-HIGHER-/400618247704?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276&clk_rvr_id=554908857729 Quote
Rob Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 This is one ugly coin.Slabbing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-WASHINGTON-QUARTER-NGC-MS67-CAC-RAINBOW-2ND-FINEST-REGISTY-2-HIGHER-/400618247704?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276&clk_rvr_id=554908857729Looks like an almost perfect fingerprint on the obverse. Quote
Paulus Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 This is one ugly coin.Slabbing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-WASHINGTON-QUARTER-NGC-MS67-CAC-RAINBOW-2ND-FINEST-REGISTY-2-HIGHER-/400618247704?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276&clk_rvr_id=554908857729Yuk yuk and yuk again, whatever the grade ANYONE dreams up, that coin has zero eye appeal for me! Quote
Coinery Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) This is one ugly coin.Slabbing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-WASHINGTON-QUARTER-NGC-MS67-CAC-RAINBOW-2ND-FINEST-REGISTY-2-HIGHER-/400618247704?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276&clk_rvr_id=554908857729Yuk yuk and yuk again, whatever the grade ANYONE dreams up, that coin has zero eye appeal for me!Apparently it's Elvis' print, though! Edit: must get a bag of MS 1967 pennies over to Johnny Depp and get him to paws his way through them with his buddies! Could be a new dramatic turn in the slabbing world...MS67 1967 British Penny with a 75% index print of J.Depp! This time next year we'll be millionaires Rodders! Edited December 1, 2013 by Coinery Quote
Rob Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 This is one ugly coin.Slabbing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-WASHINGTON-QUARTER-NGC-MS67-CAC-RAINBOW-2ND-FINEST-REGISTY-2-HIGHER-/400618247704?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276&clk_rvr_id=554908857729Yuk yuk and yuk again, whatever the grade ANYONE dreams up, that coin has zero eye appeal for me!That's ok then, no problems for you as you're not being forced to buy it. Beauty is as always, in the eye of the beholder.Full marks to the person listing it. Cac rainbow is about right - 40 shades of brown. Quote
Peter Posted December 1, 2013 Posted December 1, 2013 Another slab.How the heck can this 1905 1/- be more than NVF?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1905-GREAT-BRITAIN-KE-VII-SILVER-SHILLING-KM-800-KEY-DATE-LOW-488K-MINTAGE-/271312348077?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f2b79e3ad Quote
Peckris Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 This is one ugly coin.Slabbing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1936-WASHINGTON-QUARTER-NGC-MS67-CAC-RAINBOW-2ND-FINEST-REGISTY-2-HIGHER-/400618247704?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276&clk_rvr_id=554908857729That gets a grade of 67 (/70) ??? How ?????? Whoever affixed that label that says "CAC" is telling no lie... Quote
Peckris Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Another slab.How the heck can this 1905 1/- be more than NVF?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1905-GREAT-BRITAIN-KE-VII-SILVER-SHILLING-KM-800-KEY-DATE-LOW-488K-MINTAGE-/271312348077?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f2b79e3adXF40 is approximately our VF, right? Quote
davidrj Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Another slab.How the heck can this 1905 1/- be more than NVF?http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1905-GREAT-BRITAIN-KE-VII-SILVER-SHILLING-KM-800-KEY-DATE-LOW-488K-MINTAGE-/271312348077?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3f2b79e3adXF40 is approximately our VF, right?low end of VF, I find this little chart useful Quote
Accumulator Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Wow, EF's sound a whole lot better described as Splendido, but like something you'd toss in the recycling bin if called Vorzuglich. Not quite sure what to make of Fast Stempelglanz either!P.s. I was never good at languages Quote
declanwmagee Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Maybe not even that. Sheldon 35-40 I've got down as F+. Looks like your grading of it was spot on, Peter! Quote
Paulus Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 Maybe not even that. Sheldon 35-40 I've got down as F+. Looks like your grading of it was spot on, Peter!And (perhaps) so was that of PCGS? Quote
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