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[argentumandcoins 70]

Satrt at the bottom and read up!

Dear dullahan78,

2 reasons.

1) I am a full time professional coin dealer and I do not like to see buyers being ripped off.

2) I am a former police officer and to knowingly offer for sale a forgery is fraudulent and a criminal offence.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to stop you from unwittingly passing on a fake to an ebay buyer. I guess you know full well what you are attempting so I'll leave the ball in your court.

- john8150_0

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From: dullahan78

To: john8150_0

Subject: Re: Details about the item: john8150_0 sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486

Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 16:43:48 BST

Dear john8150_0,

This is the third message I have had in this Vane. I don't know how to answer you any other way than advise you THAT if this is what you believe WHY are you bothering to concern yourself AT ALL

- dullahan78

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From: john8150_0

To: dullahan78

Subject: Details about the item: john8150_0 sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486

Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 13:39:07 BST

Dear dullahan78,

This is one of the recent Chinese forgeries isn't it?

Regards,

John.

- john8150_0

[Coinery 926]

Satrt at the bottom and read up!

Dear dullahan78,

2 reasons.

1) I am a full time professional coin dealer and I do not like to see buyers being ripped off.

2) I am a former police officer and to knowingly offer for sale a forgery is fraudulent and a criminal offence.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to stop you from unwittingly passing on a fake to an ebay buyer. I guess you know full well what you are attempting so I'll leave the ball in your court.

- john8150_0

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From: dullahan78

To: john8150_0

Subject: Re: Details about the item: john8150_0 sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486

Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 16:43:48 BST

Dear john8150_0,

This is the third message I have had in this Vane. I don't know how to answer you any other way than advise you THAT if this is what you believe WHY are you bothering to concern yourself AT ALL

- dullahan78

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From: john8150_0

To: dullahan78

Subject: Details about the item: john8150_0 sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486

Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 13:39:07 BST

Dear dullahan78,

This is one of the recent Chinese forgeries isn't it?

Regards,

John.

- john8150_0

That should do it!

[azda 973]

Somehow i doubt it Stuart

[argentumandcoins 70]

It didn't!

An obnoxious, odious tit (and that's just me)

John 150 Thank you for your advice and your concern. The coin is a genuine find and belongs to my nephew the Finder.

As a former Police Officer you should have left the Paranoia behind when you left the 'Job'

Nobody is being forced to bid. The information on the listing is freely available on Wikipedia If in Doubt DON'T BID

First of all I resent your allegations that "I am knowingly offering for sale a forgery" I know nothing of the sort and I am yet to be shown that this coin is a forgery. I would tread carefully when making accusations especially IN WRITING. You could not have been a very competent Police Officer in my estimation.

And there's more

I have just had an offer to purchase this coin direct as a result of all the flack.

i may remove it of my nephew agrees So Thank you Caped Crusader

[azda 973]

If you're Batman he must be the Joker

[Peter 615]

What a complete f***wit

[Peckris 579]

It didn't!

An obnoxious, odious tit (and that's just me)

John 150 Thank you for your advice and your concern. The coin is a genuine find and belongs to my nephew the Finder.

As a former Police Officer you should have left the Paranoia behind when you left the 'Job'

Nobody is being forced to bid. The information on the listing is freely available on Wikipedia If in Doubt DON'T BID

First of all I resent your allegations that "I am knowingly offering for sale a forgery" I know nothing of the sort and I am yet to be shown that this coin is a forgery. I would tread carefully when making accusations especially IN WRITING. You could not have been a very competent Police Officer in my estimation.

And there's more

I have just had an offer to purchase this coin direct as a result of all the flack.

i may remove it of my nephew agrees So Thank you Caped Crusader

It's still there, so I've sent him a polite message too.

[Mongo 1]

It's still there, so I've sent him a polite message too.

Me too! Just for the hell of it

[azda 973]

Lmfao, he'll be getting annoyed, so i'm gonna tip him over with a message to

Edited July 26, 2012 by azda

[Paulus 1,942]

Lmfao, he'll be getting annoyed, so i'm gonna tip him over with a message to

And me!!

[Mongo 1]

Lmfao, he'll be getting annoyed, so i'm gonna tip him over with a message to

And me!!

Classic!!!

2) I am a former police officer and to knowingly offer for sale a forgery is fraudulent and a criminal offence.

How would the law stand on this, now he has been told several times John, is that deemed "knowingly" enough, evidence wise?

[argentumandcoins 70]

Lmfao, he'll be getting annoyed, so i'm gonna tip him over with a message to

And me!!

Classic!!!

2) I am a former police officer and to knowingly offer for sale a forgery is fraudulent and a criminal offence.

How would the law stand on this, now he has been told several times John, is that deemed "knowingly" enough, evidence wise?

It used to be "obtaining property (ie cash) by deception" but the Theft Act was overhauled just as I was leaving in 2009 so I don't know which section it would come under now, but, yes it is a criminal offence. Whether or not there would be enough Police Officers left in Cambridge to be able to spare one for an investigation is of course another matter!

[Mongo 1]

It used to be "obtaining property (ie cash) by deception" but the Theft Act was overhauled just as I was leaving in 2009 so I don't know which section it would come under now, but, yes it is a criminal offence. Whether or not there would be enough Police Officers left in Cambridge to be able to spare one for an investigation is of course another matter!

It must be so frustrating for you as ex police to see these things going on John! It is blatant that this person knows what he is doing. If more than one person told me I had a fake listed I would cancel the auction right away.

I just had a reply from him saying he was "leaving it up to his nephew and the highest bidder to take it to the Royal Mint for identification"...????

On a lighter note, he also said "he has had some abuse" about it, so thats nice

[pies 33]

It used to be "obtaining property (ie cash) by deception" but the Theft Act was overhauled just as I was leaving in 2009 so I don't know which section it would come under now, but, yes it is a criminal offence. Whether or not there would be enough Police Officers left in Cambridge to be able to spare one for an investigation is of course another matter!

It must be so frustrating for you as ex police to see these things going on John! It is blatant that this person knows what he is doing. If more than one person told me I had a fake listed I would cancel the auction right away.

I just had a reply from him saying he was "leaving it up to his nephew and the highest bidder to take it to the Royal Mint for identification"...????

On a lighter note, he also said "he has had some abuse" about it, so thats nice

                       

I got this as a reply

                       

Dear phpies,

Please don't bid on the coin I am waiting a descision from my nephew who found the coin on his building site. He takes his metal Detector with him on every site he works because his friend discovered a small hoard of Gold Coins.

I ask you not to bid as I am proposing to take the listing off because I have been unindated with messages that the coin is a Chinese copy therefore to be sure I am sending the Coin to the Royal Mint to have it checked out

- dullahan78

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From: phpies

To: dullahan78

Subject: Details about the item: phpies sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486

Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 22:11:38 BST

Dear dullahan78,

Hi I'm interested in bidding on th 1860 halfpenny. You stated that this is a metal detector find but the coin is in exceptional condition. Has it been cleaned in any way

Regds

Colin

- phpies

                   

1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny

Item Id: 18093750348

               

[Peter 615]

It used to be "obtaining property (ie cash) by deception" but the Theft Act was overhauled just as I was leaving in 2009 so I don't know which section it would come under now, but, yes it is a criminal offence. Whether or not there would be enough Police Officers left in Cambridge to be able to spare one for an investigation is of course another matter!

It must be so frustrating for you as ex police to see these things going on John! It is blatant that this person knows what he is doing. If more than one person told me I had a fake listed I would cancel the auction right away.

I just had a reply from him saying he was "leaving it up to his nephew and the highest bidder to take it to the Royal Mint for identification"...????

On a lighter note, he also said "he has had some abuse" about it, so thats nice

I might of said something.

[Peckris 579]

It used to be "obtaining property (ie cash) by deception" but the Theft Act was overhauled just as I was leaving in 2009 so I don't know which section it would come under now, but, yes it is a criminal offence. Whether or not there would be enough Police Officers left in Cambridge to be able to spare one for an investigation is of course another matter!

It must be so frustrating for you as ex police to see these things going on John! It is blatant that this person knows what he is doing. If more than one person told me I had a fake listed I would cancel the auction right away.

I just had a reply from him saying he was "leaving it up to his nephew and the highest bidder to take it to the Royal Mint for identification"...????

On a lighter note, he also said "he has had some abuse" about it, so thats nice

                       

I got this as a reply

                       

Dear phpies,

Please don't bid on the coin I am waiting a descision from my nephew who found the coin on his building site. He takes his metal Detector with him on every site he works because his friend discovered a small hoard of Gold Coins.

I ask you not to bid as I am proposing to take the listing off because I have been unindated with messages that the coin is a Chinese copy therefore to be sure I am sending the Coin to the Royal Mint to have it checked out

- dullahan78

Reply in your email program or through My Messages

From: phpies

To: dullahan78

Subject: Details about the item: phpies sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486

Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 22:11:38 BST

Dear dullahan78,

Hi I'm interested in bidding on th 1860 halfpenny. You stated that this is a metal detector find but the coin is in exceptional condition. Has it been cleaned in any way

Regds

Colin

- phpies

                   

1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny

Item Id: 18093750348

               

Really? I thought it was dated 1860

[Peter 615]

Gone

[Coinery 926]

Not a laugh, really! This 120953945602 (please do add link if you're on a grown-up computer) is being sold by someone who sells a lot of coins, and the best they can do is put 'POSSIBLY a forgery' at the bottom of the listing!

Fortunately, it's obvious, and would probably be an interesting study piece if you could pin the type down exactly, as it was likely a good counterfeit in its day.

I just dislike the dishonest approach to this, I wouldn't trust him an inch as a distant seller!

[Debbie 58]

I'm back on a proper computer! After a week away in Devon with no mobile signal, no wifi and an out of order pay phone.

Anyway heres the link link

[Peckris 579]

Not a laugh, really! This 120953945602 (please do add link if you're on a grown-up computer) is being sold by someone who sells a lot of coins, and the best they can do is put 'POSSIBLY a forgery' at the bottom of the listing!

Fortunately, it's obvious, and would probably be an interesting study piece if you could pin the type down exactly, as it was likely a good counterfeit in its day.

I just dislike the dishonest approach to this, I wouldn't trust him an inch as a distant seller!

"HAPPY BIDDING!" he says at the end. It's now standing at the exorbitant total of £3.01 - I wouldn't be happy even at that price

I'm back on a proper computer! After a week away in Devon with no mobile signal, no wifi and an out of order pay phone.

Anyway heres the link link

We still have pay phones down here? My God, we're living up to our country bumpkin caricature! Mind you, I can sympathise - my mobile is Orange and I couldn't get a signal anywhere in my home. Now they've teamed up with T Mobile, if I wait a minute or so, suddenly I get bars appear, then dial manically before they disappear.

[seuk 85]

Not a laugh, really! This 120953945602 (please do add link if you're on a grown-up computer) is being sold by someone who sells a lot of coins, and the best they can do is put 'POSSIBLY a forgery' at the bottom of the listing!

Fortunately, it's obvious, and would probably be an interesting study piece if you could pin the type down exactly, as it was likely a good counterfeit in its day.

I just dislike the dishonest approach to this, I wouldn't trust him an inch as a distant seller!

"HAPPY BIDDING!" he says at the end. It's now standing at the exorbitant total of £3.01 - I wouldn't be happy even at that price

I'm back on a proper computer! After a week away in Devon with no mobile signal, no wifi and an out of order pay phone.

Anyway heres the link link

We still have pay phones down here? My God, we're living up to our country bumpkin caricature! Mind you, I can sympathise - my mobile is Orange and I couldn't get a signal anywhere in my home. Now they've teamed up with T Mobile, if I wait a minute or so, suddenly I get bars appear, then dial manically before they disappear.

...and I'm the happy winner

[Coinery 926]

...and I'm the happy winner

Did you have that in your watch list, or is that a bottle of Henry Weston's Vintage Cider in the post for me?

[seuk 85]

...and I'm the happy winner

Did you have that in your watch list, or is that a bottle of Henry Weston's Vintage Cider in the post for me?

In my watch list

At least once a week I check ebay using these search words:

contemporary,Counterfeit,forged,forgery,fake,evasive,evasion,imitation,nonregal,"non regal",copies,copy,replica,pattern,exonumia,tiffen,tiffin,george iii,george 3rd,georgius + all the years 1804-1820 etc. - It stirs up loads of crap plus a few interesting items

[Coinery 926]

...and I'm the happy winner

Did you have that in your watch list, or is that a bottle of Henry Weston's Vintage Cider in the post for me?

In my watch list

At least once a week I check ebay using these search words:

contemporary,Counterfeit,forged,forgery,fake,evasive,evasion,imitation,nonregal,"non regal",copies,copy,replica,pattern,exonumia,tiffen,tiffin,george iii,george 3rd,georgius + all the years 1804-1820 etc. - It stirs up loads of crap plus a few interesting items

Pah! I'd love a closer look at some good images when it turns up!

[Coinery 926]

This is my all-time favourite ever eBay laugh! This will cheer up even the most day-jaded soul, hilarious!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221078266257?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649