secret santa Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, The Bee said: Last one from 1892 looks like slight doubling of the linear circle Just a nasty gouge, I think. But more interesting is the smaller 8 between the 8 and 9 ! 1 Quote
The Bee Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 Many thanks Richard , I my mistake, I had assumed the gouge was the thing and the odd 8 shape, was somehow damage ! Have you seen other examples from 1892 ? [Assume the 1863's are all damage - did think there was possibly something sticking out to the left of the spec] Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted January 4 Author Posted January 4 1900 Penny with "9" aligned on the tip of the tail rather than at the top Something for a murky Saturday. Might be slightly uncommon ? I think for all my other 1900 pennies the date is aligned at the top ! Quote
Peckris 2 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 A real 1865/3 doesn't look anything like that, sorry. Quote
The Bee Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 Many thanks Peckris2 , No problem at all, I think it's just a worn damaged coin. Would be interesting to see if there was anything on the 1863 penny with the spec ! Started on Edward VII pennies today - working through David Groom's book - Identification of British 20th Century Bronze Coin Varieties . 1907 is proving quite a challenge (does the 7 point to left right middle or to the tooth) Very Best Regards Quote
Peckris 2 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 1/5/2025 at 8:30 PM, The Bee said: Started on Edward VII pennies today - working through David Groom's book - Identification of British 20th Century Bronze Coin Varieties . 1907 is proving quite a challenge (does the 7 point to left right middle or to the tooth) I've been wary of 1907 since I saw a reader’s survey in Coin Monthly in 1969 where a large number of ‘varieties' were listed, all featuring the digit 7 and nothing else! They never made it into even the Check Your Change booklets. 1 Quote
The Bee Posted January 9 Author Posted January 9 On 1/7/2025 at 10:35 PM, Peckris 2 said: I've been wary of 1907 since I saw a reader’s survey in Coin Monthly in 1969 where a large number of ‘varieties' were listed, all featuring the digit 7 and nothing else! They never made it into even the Check Your Change booklets. Well, I did as much as I could manage on 1907 , I found 10 (or at least I think I found 10) and then bundled all the rest of the 1907's away. I do remember buying coin monthly occasionally from my local WH Smith's, I was collecting Crown's and Half Crowns in the very early 1990's, so (assuming 1907 hasn't completely confused me) was probably around then. Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 1865 Farthing "Die Crack in Front of Britannia" Late last year I bought a lot of halfpennies and farthings (including the E/F over B halfpenny). As I'm wrapping Edward VII's pennies, I pulled out one of the Farthings for a closer look and then left it ! The description is G.B. Farthing 1865 EF Die Crack in Front of Britannia $70. Had a look - at first glance it didn't look like a typical die crack ? Could it be damage to the reverse die ? Very Best Regards Quote
Martinminerva Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Hi Richard This is a die clash rather than die crack - the mirror image of Victoria's face is what has transferred to the reverse die and all subsequent coins then struck, due to the dies coming together without a blank in between them. Nice and clear, but very common. Quote
The Bee Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 Hi Martin, Many thanks for the feedback, that's really good news, a new one for my Farthing trays It was the previous owner who had paid (I assume) $70 I have retained all my different QV penny die clashes along with different widths etc in my penny trays. Whilst they are nothing extra (seem to crop up all the time), they are interesting Best I think I've seen was I think one of Richard's on another post - quite stunning Very Best Regard Quote
The Bee Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 Very pleased with Crowns and another 1849 Florin that was included in the lot - But this is probably my favourite for the week. It is an upgrade to my 1861 QV Penny (worse than many others) , with a possible repair to the second N in Penny on the obverse Quote
Peckris 2 Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Good condition but - unless it’s the photo? - it may have been polished. By the way, PENNY is on the reverse, not obverse which is the side with the monarch’s portrait. 1 Quote
The Bee Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 Apologies Peckris 2, my typo, I should have said reverse ! There are lots of nicks and scratches. Then yes, I suspect at some point after it came out of circulation it went into a collection and had a polish and a lot of the original patina has been lost. My runner up is below Quote
The Bee Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 1855 Halfpenny Could there be and overdate ? Hi I have a few 1855 Halfpennies. Looking again at one of them, it looks as it the second 5 in the date might be over another date ? I wondered, if it is an overdate, what it might be ? Best Regards ! Quote
Peckris 2 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 2/7/2025 at 8:07 PM, The Bee said: 1855 Halfpenny Could there be and overdate ? Hi I have a few 1855 Halfpennies. Looking again at one of them, it looks as it the second 5 in the date might be over another date ? I wondered, if it is an overdate, what it might be ? Best Regards ! if anything at all it might be a 6 … or a cud 1 Quote
The Bee Posted February 13 Author Posted February 13 On 2/9/2025 at 9:25 PM, Peckris 2 said: if anything at all it might be a 6 … or a cud Hi I had an attempt at removing the old DNA and gunk. 1855 Halfpenny date with 8 over 8 ? 1st 5 over 5 ? and possible overdate on last 5 ? Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted March 28 Author Posted March 28 1854 Halfpenny I quite often seem to find up repairs to the numbers in dates pre 1860 I think this is first time I've found all the numbers in the date moved slightly to the right (what looks like) the same amount I wondered if the date had been doubled rather than repaired ? Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 1853 Halfpenny - Wondered if this was damage or an attempt to repair Victoria's Nose ? Hi Hope all's well I have working through my pre 1860 copper halfpenny's and noticed this for 1853. It looks as if it might be a repair to her nose and lip ? Victoria Dei Gratia doesn't look as if it is "doubled" in a similar way - maybe it was mint damage as I can see a trace of what I think is the shield from the reverse "hanging down" from her ribbon at the back of her head Any thoughts ? Very Best Regards Quote
Peckris 2 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 (edited) On 3/28/2025 at 8:27 AM, The Bee said: 1854 Halfpenny I quite often seem to find up repairs to the numbers in dates pre 1860 I think this is first time I've found all the numbers in the date moved slightly to the right (what looks like) the same amount I wondered if the date had been doubled rather than repaired ? Very Best Regards I think you may well be right as the teeth also show signs of being displaced to the right - I think it’s properly called “die bounce”? Edited March 29 by Peckris 2 2 Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted March 30 Posted March 30 Here is a very clear example on a 1854 penny that I currently have on ebay. Quote
The Bee Posted March 30 Author Posted March 30 13 hours ago, Peckris 2 said: I think you may well be right as the teeth also show signs of being displaced to the right - I think it’s properly called “die bounce”? Many thanks the feedback Peckris 2. On checking further all of the obverse legend has a similar "offset" as if the die slightly rotated. Possibly QV head is slightly rotated too For example on the right hand side you can see the same for G R A and the teeth again show "die bounce" while on the Left Hand Side Victoria's Nose and Lip etc is probably best evidence And many thanks to Bronze and Copper Collector for the 1854 Penny date, which I'd not seen before Very Best Regards Quote
The Bee Posted April 7 Author Posted April 7 1865 Farthing - Victoria ? Hi I was started sorting out some more Farthings , finding (not a surprise) a few repairs that were new to me This is from an 1865 Farthings I wondered - is it post mint damage or something else ? Very Best Regards Quote
Martinminerva Posted April 7 Posted April 7 (edited) Yes, just a circumferential die crack. Victorian bronze was very prone to it, and around the legend letters especially so as these were points of weakness. Nothing numismatically significant here, I'm afraid. Edited April 7 by Martinminerva Correcting auto-correct! Bloody "AI"!! 1 Quote
The Bee Posted April 8 Author Posted April 8 And another minor one ... 1881 Farthing H mint, which I think its an H next to H (rather than damage). Fairly common I would expect but still nice to find as I re-order all my Bronze Victoria Farthings Best Regards 1 Quote
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