Gothic Crown Dies and Collar

[Sword]

I was in the British Museum recently and took some photos of the Gothic Crown dies. They are on loan to the BM from the Royal Mint Museum. (There is a hairline crack at 10 o'clock on the obverse die.)

 

[Sword]

Die crack shown in last photo.

[Garrett]

Wow, interesting thanks for posting.

 

 

[Matteo95]

Amazing !! Thanks you for these spectacular images  

[Sword]

Glad to see that the images are well liked. I am attaching a few more photos of dies and matrices (thanks to VS for teaching me the term) taken on the same date. The quality of the photos are not unfortunately not great (I had to use a zoom lens through display cabinets and was not allowed to use a flash).

 

[Sword]

[PWA 1967]

Thanks for sharing the photos Sword 

[Garrett]

hey thanks again they are nice photo's, I love the gothic crown die shots.  Beautiful.

I've got no idea what a 'matrices' is; but that's alright, I've got no idea what a 'James III' is either ....

I don't get out much  

Have a good weekend lads !

 

 

[Paulus]

James III, hmm ... the 'warming pan' baby, possible son of James II and pretender to the throne ... any actual coins in existence?

[ozjohn]

Very interesting especially the collar which should help to distinguish fakes as this is the hardest part to reproduce correctly. One website whose name escapes me shows pictures of the edge of gothic crowns some with weak poorly located lettering also a wide vertical bar where the two halves of the collar meet which could not occur with this collar die. I also think if there were poor strikes in this department they would have been rejected as these coins were proofs. 

[Sword]

On ‎06‎/‎05‎/‎2016 at 8:16 AM, Paulus said:

James III, hmm ... the 'warming pan' baby, possible son of James II and pretender to the throne ... any actual coins in existence?

According the information from the British Museum: The dies were made by Norbert Roettier, the Engraver General of the English mint appointed by the exiled Stuarts. The year of manufacture was 1708 and just after the failed invasion attempt by James III. These coin dies and this coin are the only known examples of the dies and coins ordered by James III on this occasion.

[Paulus]

1 hour ago, Sword said:

According the information from the British Museum: The dies were made by Norbert Roettier, the Engraver General of the English mint appointed by the exiled Stuarts. The year of manufacture was 1708 and just after the failed invasion attempt by James III. These coin dies and this coin are the only known examples of the dies and coins ordered by James III on this occasion.

Thanks Mark, a fascinating period in English history!