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  1. DrLarry

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    The Princess Royal VICTORIA seems to have the same obverse portrait but has different reverses: 1 is cut with the B of BORN just one the V; the 2nd have the B on the O and the colons are wider ; the 3rd has a distinct comma after ROYAL .
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    and the mising B and the typical reverse R over R
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    here are the three head types with reverse 1, THE LARGE HEAD 2. THE SMALL HEAD 3. THE INTERMEDIATE HEAD from my own n.9 a total of 6 are small heads 1 large head 1 Middle heads and one an ALBERT without Prince
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    not sure this will help
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    Oh OK you think as many as that. Very Nice I am not 100% but I did try straighten yours and compared it BUT I think yours might be different. The nose on mine ponts to the lower part of the B yours middle to upper I placed a grid over both in editor and they seem slightly different . Of course yes I know the grade is different that can play tricks with the eyes but the sculpting of the face the profile line looks different.
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    I think in terms of total numbers we are likely only dealing with no more than 4 or 5 examples surviving that are known. Did you share your s with him when he was writing because the one in the image in the book is an uncirculated one.
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    The PRINCE ALBERT medalet as far as I can see has 3 versions a large head variety where the nose points to the Gap between B and E ; a second which has the nose pointing to lower part of the B ; a third which has the nose pointing to the middle of the B. A reverse associated with the large head has full punctuation and an 8 over an 8 ; a reverse punctuated only at the end most have an R over R in MARRIED , it may be that the one punctuated after 1819 and 1840 is simply the result of a fill. these medalets were made by Joseph Moore made as novelties. Other model coins seem to have had a more serious role discussed in more detail in Rogers page 37. they may have been made in or before 1844 (rogers) and continued to be sold after 1848 Interestingly Prince Arthur 7th son was not included but it may exists. It would not be surprising for there to be many variations and the size of the smaller ones must have been hard to view without good microscopes and the advantage of digital photography when Rogers wrote the Toy Coins Book.
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    I must have missed the single colon type likely just a blocked die
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    yes true you generally have to be a snatch and grab merchant .....
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    yes that is my checking mechanism
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    Oh good I'm glad there is a better one . Take some pics for me please
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    Yes that makes sense otherwise it's pretty disrespectful
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    details
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    There appear to be 3 different heads of Queen Victoria Moore may well have cut these different dies for each box variation. The Size of the queens Head varies in size, one has no colons after REG :one has one Colon dot and a third is typical two colons after REG : The reverse also has differences in the punctuation after each line. the beading is different some seem to have defined beans others have teeth some have nothing at all. On one the BUN is enlarged and has an R over an R in REG. this portrait is much larger and the diamonds in the crown much larger
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    I think as you also showed the queens Scent Box set I thought it might be a good idea to share some of the other Royal Family sets too. There appear to be many more variations than listed in Rogers Section 06 # 270 to 278. Most of the differences are in the design of the portraits. I found a set recently with the rare ALBERT without the PRINCE I am assuming that the set in a complete set so may help with this issue. I have found the VICTORIA without the REG but it was not associated with a set so I cannot verify what was issued with it. As I have shown above the design of the WINDSOR CASTLE BOX has four or more variations assumably had various issues associated with them . Rogers #271 and # 270 a. 10.5 mm
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    I have a recollection of having one of the mini scent boxes but they are so small they may have got mixed up or stored in a place where they shouldn't be
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    yes I looked at both, the first "fake" one the engraving looks continuous whereas the second appears to be irregular somehow. Of course it is hard when the first is dirtied up . I am sure you are right it was just an observation there is a considerable difference in the two the cut of the ornamentation in the cloak is a series of dots cf. a straight cut in the original
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    It looks a lot less "blobby" than the ones from ireland. It always worries me a lot buying saxon coins as much as I love them it is hard to trust these days. I am interested because I would like to learn about hammered and it is important for me to understand how your look at these irregularities
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    that just about does it for my Hairies . It seems clear that there four varieties of each so some are yet to be discovered. they are either different designs , different metals, or different legend types. Thanks for bringing them up
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    I found I had a farthing but it is different made of brass I assume yours is the iron covered by copper version although yours seems to point to the middle of the W in which case yours is also a new variety #810 truncation to D and ~ 811 truncation to the second V of W
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    This also appears to be a new variety made of Brass rather than iron coated copper Rogers #810 and #811 sorry I had not noticed I had a farthing
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    This is a new variety of the HALF PENNY made of iron coated with copper as opposed the one listed Rogers # 805 made of Brass
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    The Penny this one appears to be a new variety not listed . It is iron with a smaller Britannia and the portrait is different with the truncation pointing to the to the D Rogers # 800 and 801 one of the copper and one iron have the truncation pointing to the centre of the W in the copper and to the last V of the W in the iron version
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    DrLarry replied to DrLarry's topic in Free for all

    three pence the first has the nose pointing towards the M nd has a beaded border cf. the toothed border on the others
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