I wouldn't go as far as not described because the PCGS picture shows those faults, however if I'd bought the coin based on the PCGS picture, then received a coin looking more like Catherine's pictures, I'd return it too.
My thoughts too, however wouldn't tooling drop the weight? According to NGC it's 9.5 grams, although I think they've rounded that up.
The edge is real ragged too, and so many dents and dings all over it.
Forget the price, I know that it's ludicrous, no-one will pay that. I'm interested in if it's genuine because it doesn't look very good.. but it's been slabbed by NGC..
Definitely a factor in it, but 120k 1951s against 14 million 1949s, I just don't see it.
I mean, I notice 1951's more than 1949's, because it's much more valuable and dealers will probably give it priority compared to a 1949.
I was just curious.
What makes you say that, Bernie? Just given the mintage quantities and the fact that all 1951s were shipped to Bermuda once minted.
I don't disagree that there's plenty of BU 1951s out there, but more than the amount of BU 1949s?
If you have the time Ian, buy some cheap cleaning supplies and get to work on some crappy QEIIs, you'll get to know what they look like using different methods and also the limits of cleaning a coin. Here's a pic of one I had where you can see around the legends where it was cleaned a while ago, it has that 'halo' look to it which you just don't get from natural toning.
Fully agree with you there. Sometimes one forgets that people don't necessarily know what you're talking about (especially when it's your area of knowledge) and it's unintentionally assumed, but if you see any like that, question it like you did someone will hopefully elaborate.
I'd guess he's referring to the dark red colour. However I don't think it is and I'd have faith in Mike's opinion as he has the coin in hand and is a seasoned collector.
I'd go as far as 04, 05, 06, 07, sometimes the 09 is a bit mulshy too. There's a stark contrast in quality from the design change using the veiled head to Eddy's bust, they really couldn't get their heads around it for many years after.
Yep, one and the same. Good guy too, he accidentally sent my coin to someone else (who had also bought something) but went out his way to make sure he got it back and then offered it back to me after refunding for the initial mix up. Was very glad he did too
That bidder's history is also a bit dodgy...
12 bids on one item, 17 bids on another, 18 on another and 50 on what I guess is this one.
..and 5 retracted bids in the last 6 months.. I think I've retracted one or two since I joined years ago.
Hmm, well clearly not N over Z (and anyone who is spending 400 quid on one surely knows what they look like). Plus even if it was, it shouldn't be this high. Looks like it's had an olive oil bath.