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I've tried to capture as many versions as I could: https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/george-iii-patterns-restrikes/#top

Done !

Absolutely https://headsntails14.wordpress.com/victoria-official-pattern-obverses-reverses/

There is an indescribable feeling of owning a particular coin - any coin. Even if it's locked away, modern photographs are sufficiently good as to provide visual access at any time. Some people may prefer to spend their money on holidays, or expensive cars - I prefer to buy coins - I can't really describe why and I don't expect others to feel the same way or understand. That's what makes us all different.

I think I would prefer to be deliberately injured rather than accidentally killed. Should the sentence reflect that ?

It's certainly not any evidence of a majority but the posted comments demonstrate an awful lot of support: https://www.gofundme.com/f/give-adam-white-justice

I would love to see a system that allocates punishment on an incremental basis, i.e. every successive crime acknowledges previous crimes and becomes more and more punitive, culminating in something truly dreadful. There seems very little deterrent in today's system. If every crime is simply judged on its standalone "merits", there is no recognition of the career criminal and the drain on society that he/she represents.

I originally posted this because of the disgust that I felt with the lack of punishment dealt out to the serial offenders. I also felt that Adam White's punishment was unduly harsh in the circumstances although it wasn't really feasible that he would have been completely exonerated. A much smaller punishment (suspended sentence perhaps) for him and a much harsher punishment for the burglars would have been more acceptable to the general public in my opinion.

And the more the courts show undue leniency to criminals, the more an aggrieved householder is likely to overreact in the heat of the incident.

It's reached over £168K now and the comments of the donors reflect the views of so many people regarding the leniency shown to the career criminals. No doubt they had a difficult childhood and are beautiful boys at heart. In fact, one of them when being arrested and asked if there was anyone who should be informed of his arrest, nominated his pregnant girlfriend and, when asked her date of birth, replied that he had no idea. Compulsory sterilisation crosses my mind.

Precisely !!!!!!!!!!

Given that the estimate was £10-12K, I imagine that the reserve was somewhat higher than £5.5K but, if so, why start so low ? Is that a "come and get me" starting level ? In the same sale, here's an example of a coin that didn't meet its reserve although it did have a bid, so I assume that no bids means no bids, to paraphrase Theresa May. https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/d3cfc4b59ea829d9300d9c650f7b8836/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/timed-auction-of-750-lots-of-coins-medallions-and-silv-lot-454/

I think there's a growing feeling that justice is not being seen to be done in many cases in this country, and that we are soft on serial offenders. The fact that prison sentences, even if they are actually given, are only ever half-served annoys the hell out of me. It would be satisfying if this case generates enough momentum to cause change, but I'm not holding my breath.

I find the most enraging aspect is that the culprits suffered no legal punishment and even worse, that they may make financial gain from the episode.

Did anyone watch this programme last Monday ? It featured a man who chased 2 burglars from his house in his car before colliding with them on their stolen motorbike causing them injuries. They were career criminals who were merely given suspended sentences (because it would be difficult for them in jail) whilst he was given a 22 month prison sentence. That caused his wife to terminate her pregnancy and they've had to move away. His defence costs were over £50K but a GoFundMe page has now raised almost £150K. Oh yes, and the scumbags are now sueing him for damages. It certainly pays to be a criminal in Britain these days. https://www.aol.co.uk/news/24-hours-police-custody-outraged-184428067.html https://www.gofundme.com/f/give-adam-white-justice

No bids https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/0e729832873217a63d9c2c16c64c8331/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/timed-auction-of-750-lots-of-coins-medallions-and-silver/

It was publicised in Coin News.

I'm surprised that there were no bids for that nice 1922 F192A yesterday - it's one of the best of a really rare bunch. https://www.easyliveauction.com/catalogue/lot/0e729832873217a63d9c2c16c64c8331/0af8d24542e81eb9357e7ef448a6646f/timed-auction-of-750-lots-of-coins-medallions-and-silver/

tenderly, I assume.

yes, that's the man. We exchanged emails for a while and I thought the book was imminent but I've heard nothing for over a year.

Yes, it's John Jerrams but he seems to call himself Stephen on communications. On a separate note, someone (Bill somebody) last year was preparing a new digital update of John's Bun Penny book but it has never surfaced.

Wide and narrow dates, Rob ? Tut tut - it's large and small dates we geeks are talking here.

I've been watching this and surprised it hasn't been snapped up - scarce-ish coin.